John 13: 34-35 NLT

Stay faithful believers, Jesus loves you more than you could ever imagine. (Please Read if you have the time ❤️)

2020.11.14 06:58 okJesus Stay faithful believers, Jesus loves you more than you could ever imagine. (Please Read if you have the time ❤️)

Hey guys,
This is a message for the beloved fighters who are more than conquerors through Christ. Yes, I’m talking to the people who are mentally drained from their distressing unwanted thoughts and even if you may not realize it, Jesus loves you with an everlasting love.
In this post I would like to share my experience with intrusive thoughts and how Jesus was with me every step of the way. It’s a bit long but please read if you need encouragement and insight from someone who has battled with this and came out stronger all thanks to Jesus Christ my Lord and Savior. I can honestly say that I’m undeserving but all the more the thankful for what God has done in my life.
A couple months back when I first started getting these disturbing and unwanted thoughts, I honestly would have never imagined myself to be in such a great situation as I am now. At my lowest I kept feeding and stressing over these thoughts to the point where I thought it was over for me multiple times, yet Jesus kept showing and surrounding me with His unfailing love. It was one day when I was in prayer talking with God in His Holy presence about my mental health and I heard a beautiful soft whisper saying “My Grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness” and I instantly started to begin to cry tears of joy because I knew right there He understands my pain. Hallelujah! Praise be to the Glory of our God!
I know how it feels to be in that storm, all the miserable days where I felt trapped in the prison of my mind and I thought I would never make it out. The restless nights of condemnation and feeling like these thoughts robbed me of my faith. Everyday was me battling against unwanted thoughts and it felt like I was losing my mind. In fact, I would read these reddit posts, such as this one, of people getting better and I would think if that were to ever happen to me? Well, now I can officially say that by the perfect steadfast love, faithfulness, grace, long suffering, and great mercy that is the praiseworthy character of God, I am in a much better place now than I ever was before. What a blessing it is to have a such an amazing God. I’m not saying I understand everyone’s exact situation, because we all face our own hardships in this life, but I do know that God does, and he has already given you the victory through his only begotten son, Jesus Christ. (NLT) John 16:33 “I have told you all this so that you may have peace in me. Here on earth you will have many trials and sorrows. But take heart, because I have overcome the world.” When Jesus Christ died on the cross for all of humanity’s sins, He overcame the world and saved us from God’s wrath, the eternal punishment that we ALL deserve. God’s love for us was displayed on the cross, this is the ultimate sacrifice that was to redeem mankind of its sinful nature. There is nothing that any human could ever do to deserve this, rather it was only God’s love and mercy that allowed this to take place. (NLT) John 3:16 “For this is how God loved the world: He gave his one and only Son, so that everyone who believes in him will not perish but have eternal life.” On top of accepting the free gift of salvation made available by God’s Grace through faith, everyone who believes in Him could also have peace through Him in all the trials we face in this lifetime. So, is life easy? absolutely not. Has God given you the victory in this life and the everlasting life through believing in Jesus Christ? Yes, He absolutely has.
(ESV) Isaiah 40:8 “Have you not known? Have you not heard? The Lord is the everlasting God, the Creator of the ends of the earth. He does not faint or grow weary; his understanding is unsearchable.” For the people that think they are alone because of their thoughts, don’t think for a second that no one knows what you are going through. God understands the pain and He knows all of the problems we deal with, He created you, has called you to this purpose in Jesus Christ, and is able to protect you, so trust in HIM. None of us are truly able to do deal with life’s battles on our own strength, because we will fail every time, but that is the essence of our faith in Jesus Christ, our absolute need of the Lord and Savior of the world. We must rely on HIS strength and trust in Jesus alone. This means reading the word, being honest in prayer, being in worship, fasting when necessary, being obedient to His voice/word and striving to always focus on Jesus regardless of how things may look. I know it may be a little overwhelming at times with these thoughts but please keep praying. Prayer to our Heavenly Father is so powerful. View it as a communication that isn’t stressful, but as a peaceful conversation with God, who is love, who is your creator, and who is always there with you; and wants the best for you.
Lastly, I know how frightening these thoughts may be and how sometimes you just want to give up and walk away, but please, if you’re reading this, don’t give up on God, because he won’t give up on you. Please keep pushing forward and know that if you’re breathing, God has a plan and purpose in your life. I’m not saying I have a perfect thought life, because I don’t, but I’m saying that God will help you and His grace is sufficient for you. While you may hear that lie of a voice in your head saying that you’re done for and there is no hope, know that Jesus is that hope and he is welcoming you with His unfailing love towards you and all of your circumstances. He is the way, the truth, and the life. He is the light of the world. He is the answer to all of our problems. God bless all of you and PM me if you have any prayer requests or want to talk. Praise Jesus Christ!
(Here are some helpful Bible Verses that can encourage you as you keep them close to your heart. These and many other faithful promises in the word of God are your armor and protection. Once you accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior, you should know your identity in Christ and allow God to define you, not anything else):
(NIV) Psalm 139:13-14 For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother’s womb. I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made; your works are wonderful, I know that full well.
(NIV) John 10:28-29 I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one will snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all; no one can snatch them out of my Father’s hand.
Bible verses about your firm Identity in Christ
For more on your Identity in Christ
(NIV) 2 Corinthians 12:8-10 Three times I pleaded with the Lord to take it away from me. But he said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness.” Therefore I will boast all the more gladly about my weaknesses, so that Christ’s power may rest on me. That is why, for Christ’s sake, I delight in weaknesses, in insults, in hardships, in persecutions, in difficulties. For when I am weak, then I am strong.
(NLT) Romans 8:31:39 Nothing Can Separate Us from God’s Love 31 What shall we say about such wonderful things as these? If God is for us, who can ever be against us? 32 Since he did not spare even his own Son but gave him up for us all, won’t he also give us everything else? 33 Who dares accuse us whom God has chosen for his own? No one—for God himself has given us right standing with himself. 34 Who then will condemn us? No one—for Christ Jesus died for us and was raised to life for us, and he is sitting in the place of honor at God’s right hand, pleading for us.
35 Can anything ever separate us from Christ’s love? Does it mean he no longer loves us if we have trouble or calamity, or are persecuted, or hungry, or destitute, or in danger, or threatened with death? 36 (As the Scriptures say, “For your sake we are killed every day; we are being slaughtered like sheep.”[a]) 37 No, despite all these things, overwhelming victory is ours through Christ, who loved us.
38 And I am convinced that nothing can ever separate us from God’s love. Neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons,[b] neither our fears for today nor our worries about tomorrow—not even the powers of hell can separate us from God’s love. 39 No power in the sky above or in the earth below—indeed, nothing in all creation will ever be able to separate us from the love of God that is revealed in Christ Jesus our Lord.
For More on God’s love
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2019.12.28 17:54 RJ-Hamster The Power of that Silent Night

The Power of that Silent Night
December 28
by Dave Burchett
One of my favorite Christmas stories happened during the horrors of war. The Christmas carol “Silent Night” was actually responsible for a wartime Christmas truce.
The year was 1914 and soldiers were having to spend Christmas Eve night on the World War I battlefields of. After only four months of fighting, more than a million men had already perished in the bloody conflict. The bodies of dead soldiers were scattered between the trenches. Enemy troops were dug-in so close that they could easily exchange shouts.
On December 24, 1914, in the middle of a freezing battlefield in France, a miracle happened. The British troops watched in amazement as candle-lit Christmas trees began to appear above the German trenches. The glowing trees soon appeared along the length of the German front.
Henry Williamson, a young soldier with the London Regiment wrote in his diary: “From the German parapet, a rich baritone voice had begun to sing a song I remembered my German nurse singing to me…. The grave and tender voice rose out of the frozen mist. It was all so strange… like being in another world — to which one had come through a nightmare.”
Silent Night Holy Night All is calm All is quiet
“They finished their carol and we thought that we ought to retaliate,” another British soldier wrote, “So we sang “The First Noël” and when we finished, they all began clapping. And they struck up “O Tannebaum” and on it went… until we started up “O Come All Ye Faithful” [and] the Germans immediately joined in …. this was really a most extraordinary thing — two nations both singing the same carol in the middle of a war.”
It is recorded that enemy soldiers greeted each other in the no man’s land that was a killing zone the day before. The soldiers wished each other Merry Christmas and agreed not to fire their rifles on Christmas Day. The spontaneous cease-fire eventually embraced much of a 500-mile stretch of the Western Front. According to the reports of soldiers at the scene, hundreds of thousands of soldiers celebrated the birth of the Prince of Peace among the bodies of their dead.
Other soldiers told of how the “enemies” exchanged badges and buttons from their uniforms. Others shared photos of wives and children and some even exchanged addresses and promised to write after the war ended.
But the miracle of peace was temporary. Slowly, under threats from their officers, the troops returned to the trenches and the recoils of rifles split the temporary “Silent Night.” Some soldiers admitted aiming so their bullets flew well above the heads of the “enemy.”
Perhaps those of us who celebrate the birth of the Savior could learn a lesson from this Christmas miracle as we engage those who do not share our beliefs and faith in Jesus. Those on the other side of the cultural trenches are not unlike us. The message delivered in Bethlehem was peace and goodwill toward all men. When we fight the cultural war we need to remember that the whole purpose of Jesus invading our space and time was to love and ultimately die for those on both sides of the battle. During the recent Army/Navy football game I was deeply moved by this observation.
“This is only game where everyone on the field is willing to die for everyone watching them play”
Jesus was willing and did die for everyone on both sides of our cultural trenches and ugly personal warfare. Perhaps the biggest miracle of that Silent Night was how the power of a unified focus on Jesus can unite even bitter enemies. My heart aches as I see Christians splitting ranks over things that don’t amount to a hill of beans on an eternal scale. I picture Jesus weeping over the churches of America like He wept over Jerusalem. I picture Him weeping over how Christians in this country divide over non-essentials and fail to communicate the joy and life-changing power of the good news of the gospel. Jesus gave this final command to His followers…
“So now I am giving you a new commandment: Love each other. Just as I have loved you, you should love each other. Your love for one another will prove to the world that you are my disciples.” John 13:34-35 – NLT
Pretty straight forward. Nothing in there about personal gain, power, or prestige. The power of what happened on that Silent Night united enemies centuries later on a French battlefield. My Christmas prayer is that the miracle of God becoming man will unite you and me, His followers, to seek what actually matters. To really make it about Christ and not about us. While we still have the chance.
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Make a difference today,
Love Clint
Philippians 3:12
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2019.11.13 05:36 CharlieH1999 Is cultural christianity hindering our call from God

How Do We Fix Ourselves: As Iron Sharpens Iron so a Friend Sharpens a Friend
We, as a body of Christian believers, have strayed from the teachings that we supposedly “live by” and it is becoming more and more evident to the ever-increasing nonbelieving society that surrounds us. As I have grown up nonbelievers in social media and Hollywood have increasingly looked down upon Christians, but it makes no sense to me. In an interview by Justin Sweeney, he asked non-Christians what they thought of Christians. Judgmental and prejudice were the top two adjectives used followed closely by hypocrites (Sweeney). A true Christian should not judge. A true Christian should not boast. A true Christian should love. I think that is what we are missing out on. Jesus gave us the golden rule. I am sure you have heard it before, “do unto others as you would have them do unto you.” If we truly lived by this rule, we as Christians would not be persecuted nearly as bad as we are. I am not saying that we would not be persecuted, all I am saying is: if all people that say they are Christian truly believed what they said they did, we would be more appealing to nonbelievers and we would probably be able to make more disciples as God calls us to.
Am I talking to you? Answer these questions and you can find out for yourself. Does your relationship with Jesus begin and end on the church threshold? Do you open your Bible outside the church walls? Do you pray for more than just your meals? You are not the only one that struggles with problems within your faith. I struggle to open my Bible daily. I wont lie to you, some days I don’t find time to open my Bible, but it isn’t the lack of time. It is my unwillingness to find the time, and I am sure it is the same way for you. You see, Christianity is not easy, and I am not writing this to tell you, “you’re wrong and I am right” because I am not. If I was perfect, I might write this paper like that, but I am not. As Paul says to the Romans, “For we all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God” (NLT Bible, Romans 3). I just wish to guide you because I wouldn’t be loving the church body if I didn’t tell you how to better yourself.
So, what does a real Christian look like? Evidence of a true believer can be defined through two Bible verses. Firstly, God commands us to love each other according to John 13:34-35 where Jesus says, “A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another” (NLT Bible, 1 John 13). Here Jesus explains that love is evidence of his disciples. If love is evidence of a disciple what characteristics are evidence of love? The second verse comes from 1 Corinthians 13. Here Paul is writing to the people of Corinth explaining what love is, and he says,
“Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self- seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres. (NLT Bible, 1 Corinthians 13).
If love is evidence of a disciple and these characteristics are evidence of love, then these characteristics are evidence of a disciple. I know you are thinking “yea I am all of those things” but are you really? Kevin Halloran also found some characteristics of a believer that have helped shape my spirituality. He explained this in his article “12 Characteristics of a True Believer” of which I will share a few. According to John 1: 4-7 “Our style of life is gradually conformed to what God has revealed to us about His nature and will” (NLT Bible, John 1). This means that we walk in the light of the Lord (Halloran). This explains that a believer will follow God’s commands and love others as stated earlier in 1 John. The second characteristic of a believer comes from 1 John chapter 1 as well, saying, “If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness” (1 John 1:8-9). This says that a true believer is sensitive to sin (Halloran). If believers are sensitive to their sin then they should not perpetuate in that sin, but be aware and vigilant for the urge to commit it again. This is contradictory to what a non-believing society views Christians as. That is because they see more of us that do not take Christianity for all that it is, the life of Christ laid out as a blueprint and sacrifice for us, so that we may follow his example and bring glory to God.
Laurence J Peter once said, “Going to church doesn’t make you a Christian any more than going to the garage makes you a car” (Peter). A lot of people have this misconception that all it takes to be a Christian is going to church every once in a while and saying a prayer before dinner. The sad fact is that they act like they know Jesus, but they are just fooling themselves. Some people are taught that is all they need, and some just act as though they never knew more devotion and fidelity was needed. In the book of Matthew, Matthew writes of Jesus’ teaching on Earth. In Matthew 15:8 he writes what Jesus once said, “These people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me” (NLT Bible, John 15). Jesus is explaining that people act and say that they are followers of Christ, but their actions contradict His teachings. Matthew later writes of a time where Jesus teaches about the heart. Here he writes “You brood of vipers, how can you who are evil say anything good? For the mouth speaks what the heart is full of” (NLT Bible, Matthew 12). Here Jesus explains that is impossible to act like a true believer without being a true believer. Like I stated earlier, “love is patient, love is kind, etc…” Society does not see patience and kindness from all of us. They see judgement hypocrites because that is what your heart is full of. Jesus is explaining how this would happen, because if your heart is full of judgement then your words will be full of judgement.
Let me reiterate the importance of this. God calls us to love everyone as I stated earlier in John 13, where he says, “A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another” (NLT Bible, 1 John 13). The problem comes when we do not completely buy in to Christianity. When John is writing to the disciples throughout Asia Minor, he writes, “For the mouth speaks what the heart is full of” (NLT Bible, John 13). For James says in James 1:26, “If anyone thinks he is religious and does not bridle his tongue but deceives his heart, this person's religion is worthless” (NLT Bible, James 1). The Bible defends itself and reiterates itself, but why does any of this matter in today’s society? Jesus calls us as believers to go and make disciples. In fact, it was his last wish before ascending to heaven, called the great commission. In Matthew 28:19-20 Jesus says “Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age” (NLT Bible, Matthew 28). If Jesus wants us to make disciples the first thing we need to do is make Christianity seem appealing. In this I mean we should be inviting and loving and caring, as God calls us to be in 1 John 13 “A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another” (NLT Bible, 1 John 13). The issue lies within those of us who judge others and do not love all who wish to enter our church as God calls us to. I am here to argue that we impede on our goal to “go forth and make disciples of all nations” (NLT Bible, Matthew 28) by sitting on our high horse and acting better than those people who do not share the same values as us. Paul tells us how to fix this in his letter to the Corinthians. He tells them,
“But now I am writing to you not to associate with anyone who bears the name of brother if he is guilty of sexual immorality or greed, or is an idolater, reviler, drunkard, or swindler—not even eat with such a one. For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Is it not those inside the church whom you are to judge? God judges those outside. “Purge the evil person from among you” (NLT Bible, 1 Corinthians 5:11-13).
Paul is telling us here to judge each other within the church as to better ourselves. This verse closely relates to one in Proverbs where King Solomon writes, “as iron sharpens iron so a friend sharpens a friend” (NLT Bible, Proverbs 27). Just as I wish to tell you now. But when it comes to people outside the church Paul says, “God judges those outside.” Unless you are a better judge than God, I would leave the judgment to Him.
How do we fix this as a church body? For those of you who do not fully understand God’s love and plan for you and those around you; find someone that demonstrates God’s love, ask for help, and above all, recognize the Bible is our life manual, so use it. We love you and we would love to explain how to demonstrate God’s love. For those of us who do understand Jesus’ sacrifice and His love, we won’t be shy. It is hard to correct fellow Christians and tell them they are believing wrong, but sometimes love is harsh, and we would not be loving you if we didn’t spot your faults. We need to understand that we are failing our friends and family by turning a blind eye. If end days came today would you regret the conversations, you did not have?
Works Cited
Halloran, Kevin. “12 characteristics of a True Christian.” Anchored in Christ. April 23, 2014. https://www.kevinhalloran.net/characteristics-of-a-true-christian/. Accessed April 14, 2019.
Illustrated Study Bible: New Living Translation. Tyndale House Publishers, Carol Stream Illinois, 2015.
Sweeney, Justin. “What does the average person think about christians?” Youtube. 23 April 2019. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCDIgnjstX4. Accessed April 20, 2019.
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2019.11.13 04:38 CharlieH1999 Is cultural Christianity hindering us from doing as God commands us? i wrote this my freshman year of college. Eager to hear your thoughts!

How Do We Fix Ourselves: As Iron Sharpens Iron so a Friend Sharpens a Friend
We, as a body of Christian believers, have strayed from the teachings that we supposedly “live by” and it is becoming more and more evident to the ever-increasing non-Christian society that surrounds us. As I have grown up nonbelievers in social media and Hollywood have increasingly looked down upon Christians, but it makes no sense to me. In an interview by Justin Sweeney, he asked non-Christians what they thought of Christians. Judgmental and prejudice were the top two adjectives used followed closely by hypocrites (Sweeney). A true Christian should not judge. A true Christian should not boast. A true Christian should love. I think that is what we are missing out on. Jesus gave us the golden rule. I am sure you have heard it before, “do unto others as you would have them do unto you.” If we truly lived by this rule, we as Christians would not be persecuted nearly as bad as we are. I am not saying that we would not be persecuted, all I am saying is: if all people that say they are Christian truly believed what they said they did, we would be more appealing to nonbelievers and we would probably be able to make more disciples as God calls us to.
Am I talking to you? Answer these questions and you can find out for yourself. Does your relationship with Jesus begin and end on the church threshold? Do you open your Bible outside the church walls? Do you pray for more than just your meals? You are not the only one that struggles with problems within your faith. I struggle to open my Bible daily. I wont lie to you, some days I don’t find time to open my Bible, but it isn’t the lack of time. It is my unwillingness to find the time, and I am sure it is the same way for you. You see, Christianity is not easy, and I am not writing this to tell you, “you’re wrong and I am right” because I am not. If I was perfect, I might write this paper like that, but I am not. As Paul says to the Romans, “For all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God” (NLT Bible, Romans 3). I just wish to guide you because I wouldn’t be loving the church body if I didn’t tell you how to better yourself.
So, what does a real Christian look like? Evidence of a true believer can be defined through two Bible verses. Firstly, God commands us to love each other according to John 13:34-35 where Jesus says, “A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another” (NLT Bible, 1 John 13). Here Jesus explains that love is evidence of his disciples. If love is evidence of a disciple what characteristics are evidence of love? The second verse comes from 1 Corinthians 13. Here Paul is writing to the people of Corinth explaining what love is, and he says,
“Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self- seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres. (NLT Bible, 1 Corinthians 13).
If love is evidence of a disciple and these characteristics are evidence of love, then these characteristics are evidence of a disciple. I know you are thinking “yea I am all of those things” but are you really? Kevin Halloran also found some characteristics of a believer that have helped shape my spirituality. He explained this in his article “12 Characteristics of a True Believer” of which I will share a few. According to John 1: 4-7 “Our style of life is gradually conformed to what God has revealed to us about His nature and will” (NLT Bible, John 1). This means that we walk in the light of the Lord (Halloran). This explains that a believer will follow God’s commands and love others as stated earlier in 1 John. The second characteristic of a believer comes from 1 John chapter 1 as well, saying, “If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness” (1 John 1:8-9). This says that a true believer is sensitive to sin (Halloran). If believers are sensitive to their sin then they should not perpetuate in that sin, but be aware and vigilant for the urge to commit it again. This is contradictory to what a non-believing society views Christians as. That is because they see more of us that do not take Christianity for all that it is, the life of Christ laid out as a blueprint and sacrifice for us, so that we may follow his example and bring glory to God.
Laurence J Peter once said, “Going to church doesn’t make you a Christian any more than going to the garage makes you a car” (Peter). A lot of people have this misconception that all it takes to be a Christian is going to church every once in a while and saying a prayer before dinner. The sad fact is that they act like they know Jesus, but they are just fooling themselves. Some people are taught that is all they need, and some just act as though they never knew more devotion and fidelity was needed. In the book of Matthew, Matthew writes of Jesus’ teaching on Earth. In Matthew 15:8 he writes what Jesus once said, “These people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me” (NLT Bible, John 15). Jesus is explaining that people act and say that they are followers of Christ, but their actions contradict His teachings. Matthew later writes of a time where Jesus teaches about the heart. Here he writes “You brood of vipers, how can you who are evil say anything good? For the mouth speaks what the heart is full of” (NLT Bible, Matthew 12). Here Jesus explains that is impossible to act like a true believer without being a true believer. Like I stated earlier, “love is patient, love is kind, etc…” Society does not see patience and kindness from all of us. They see judgement hypocrites because that is what your heart is full of. Jesus is explaining how this would happen, because if your heart is full of judgement then your words will be full of judgement.
Let me reiterate the importance of this. God calls us to love everyone as I stated earlier in John 13, where he says, “A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another” (NLT Bible, 1 John 13). The problem comes when we do not completely buy in to Christianity. When John is writing to the disciples throughout Asia Minor, he writes, “For the mouth speaks what the heart is full of” (NLT Bible, John 13). For James says in James 1:26, “If anyone thinks he is religious and does not bridle his tongue but deceives his heart, this person's religion is worthless” (NLT Bible, James 1). The Bible defends itself and reiterates itself, but why does any of this matter in today’s society? Jesus calls us as believers to go and make disciples. In fact, it was his last wish before ascending to heaven, called the great commission. In Matthew 28:19-20 Jesus says “Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age” (NLT Bible, Matthew 28). If Jesus wants us to make disciples the first thing we need to do is make Christianity seem appealing. In this I mean we should be inviting and loving and caring, as God calls us to be in 1 John 13 “A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another” (NLT Bible, 1 John 13). The issue lies within those of us who judge others and do not love all who wish to enter our church as God calls us to. I am here to argue that we impede on our goal to “go forth and make disciples of all nations” (NLT Bible, Matthew 28) by sitting on our high horse and acting better than those people who do not share the same values as us. Paul tells us how to fix this in his letter to the Corinthians. He tells them,
“But now I am writing to you not to associate with anyone who bears the name of brother if he is guilty of sexual immorality or greed, or is an idolater, reviler, drunkard, or swindler—not even eat with such a one. For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Is it not those inside the church whom you are to judge? God judges those outside. “Purge the evil person from among you” (NLT Bible, 1 Corinthians 5:11-13).
Paul is telling us here to judge each other within the church as to better ourselves. This verse closely relates to one in Proverbs where King Solomon writes, “as iron sharpens iron so a friend sharpens a friend” (NLT Bible, Proverbs 27). Just as I wish to tell you now. But when it comes to people outside the church Paul says, “God judges those outside.” Unless you are a better judge than God, I would leave the judgment to Him.
How do we fix this as a church body? For those of you who do not fully understand God’s love and plan for you and those around you; find someone that demonstrates God’s love, ask for help, and above all, recognize the Bible is our life manual, so use it. We love you and we would love to explain how to demonstrate God’s love. For those of us who do understand Jesus’ sacrifice and His love, we won’t be shy. It is hard to correct fellow Christians and tell them they are believing wrong, but sometimes love is harsh, and we would not be loving you if we didn’t spot your faults. We need to understand that we are failing our friends and family by turning a blind eye. If end days came today would you regret the conversations, you did not have?
Works Cited
Halloran, Kevin. “12 characteristics of a True Christian.” Anchored in Christ. April 23, 2014. https://www.kevinhalloran.net/characteristics-of-a-true-christian/. Accessed April 14, 2019.
Illustrated Study Bible: New Living Translation. Tyndale House Publishers, Carol Stream Illinois, 2015.
Sweeney, Justin. “What does the average person think about christians?” Youtube. 23 April 2019. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCDIgnjstX4. Accessed April 20, 2019.
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2019.03.20 23:17 Oblique9043 Why the god of the Old Testament is not the Father Jesus Speaks About: Proof from the Bible Itself

Why the god of the Old Testament is not the Father Jesus Speaks About: Proof from the Bible Itself
The god of the Old Testament and Jesus couldn't be any more opposite if they tried. Jesus never killed anyone, he never boasted about himself, he never sanctioned abortion by cursing unfaithful women, never called for killing and slaughtered of entire nations, including babies. He never offered up worldly things like gold and kingships to people in exchange for blind loyalty. Paul said that Jesus was the EXACT image of God. Wouldn't that stand to reason that would mean that everything God would do, that Jesus would have done as well?

Hebrews 1
3 The Son is the radiance of God’s glory and the exact representation of his being, sustaining all things by his powerful word.

Does anyone recall Jesus saying anything like what's said in Pslam 137?

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The god of the Old Testament is a textbook psychopathic Narcissist but to the most extreme degree possible. Literally every single thing he does, its like he wrote the playbook. Manipulation, claims of love while showing the complete opposite. Using favors to guilt you into doing things for him. Holding those favors over your head for even thousands of years. Claiming he can do whatever he wants because he's god while you are nothing and telling you that you better not worship anyone else or he'll kill you. He'll kill his own people for complaining about being hungry, then he'll kill even more for complaining about getting killed. He intentionally orchestrated the entire Exodus event, including hardening Pharaohs heart himself multiple times, all so he could show everyone how powerful he was and cause them to fear and worship him. He literally says this himself in the Bible. And in turn, this allowed him to have a select group of people he could guilt trip forever by telling them that hes the one who brought them out of slavery in Egypt and how dare they ever not do everything he says. Even though he's the one who causes all of that to happen in the first place.

Like if your father sold you into sex slavery and then came and "rescued" you 10 years later and then demanded you be eternally grateful to the point of literally giving your first born children to him for it. Telling you things like "I can't believe you. I rescued you from being raped everyday and this is how you repay me? By not doing literally every single thing that I say? I'll send you back to that place then". Do you see how insane and psychopathic the logic here is? A father doesn't save his children for ANY reason other than his love for his children. And he would NEVER EVER hold it over their heads as if to guilt them into something because of that. And he would certainly NEVER threaten to send them back if they disobeyed him. The fact that people think that this is acceptable from a being who says its all loving is just mindboggling to me. Just because something calls itself God in a book, doesn't mean it is God. And in fact, doesn't the Bible even say that Satan tries to set himself up as God and claim to be him? Where does that happen in the Bible? Its called the Old Testament.

Being a good Father


Numbers 21
4 They traveled from Mount Hor along the route to the Red Sea, to go around Edom. But the people grew impatient on the way; 5 they spoke against God and against Moses, and said, “Why have you brought us up out of Egypt to die in the wilderness? There is no bread! There is no water! And we detest this miserable food!”
6 Then the Lord sent venomous snakes among them; they bit the people and many Israelites died. 7 The people came to Moses and said, “We sinned when we spoke against the Lord and against you. Pray that the Lord will take the snakes away from us.” So Moses prayed for the people.

So here we have the Israelites in the desert after Moses leads them out of Egypt and they are complaining about food so God send snakes to bite them and kill a bunch of them.

Matthew 7
9 “Which of you, if your son asks for bread, will give him a stone? 10 Or if he asks for a fish, will give him a snake? 11 If you, then, though you are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father in heaven give good gifts to those who ask him!

And just like the example I used above about imagining what kind of father would do the things the god of the OT did, Jesus makes the same argument. Even evil people know how to give good gifts to their children because what kind of psychopath would give their hungry children snakes instead of fish, or literally anything but venomous snakes? The god of Moses thats who.

Jesus: The True Manna From Heaven


John 6
31 Our ancestors ate the manna in the wilderness; as it is written: ‘He gave them bread from heaven to eat.’”
32 Jesus said to them, “Very truly I tell you, it is not Moses who has given you the bread from heaven, but it is my Father who gives you the true bread from heaven. 33 For the bread of God is the bread that comes down from heaven and gives life to the world.”
49 Your ancestors ate the manna in the wilderness, yet they died. 50 But here is the bread that comes down from heaven, which anyone may eat and not die. 51 I am the living bread that came down from heaven. Whoever eats this bread will live forever.

Very clearly its being said here that whatever they got in the desert called Manna was not from the real God. Because if it was, they wouldn't have died.

The god of Moses, Aries, and the Beasts from Revelation


Revelation 12 and 13 have to happen at the beginning of creation to make any sense. Satan was cast out of Heaven at the beginning, how does it make any sense that he'd be cast out again at the end? If that is the case, who is this Beast from the Sea that deceives the whole world into following it at the beginning?

Hosea 13
4 Yet I am the Lord thy God from the land of Egypt, and thou shalt know no god but me: for there is no saviour beside me.
5 I did know thee in the wilderness, in the land of great drought.
6 According to their pasture, so were they filled; they were filled, and their heart was exalted; therefore have they forgotten me.
7 Therefore I will be unto them as a lion: as a leopard by the way will I observe them:
8 I will meet them as a bear that is bereaved of her whelps, and will rend the caul of their heart, and there will I devour them like a lion: the wild beast shall tear them.

Revelation 13
2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion . and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.
3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.
4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?


Both being chapter 13 is not a coincidence either. If you'll recall, the areas around the Israelites were terrified of this god going to war with them. Moses calls this god a "man of war". Lord of Hosts literally means God of war. Well the god of war is Aries, the ram, aka Mars, the red planet. Moses parted the "Red Sea". He was ushering in the age of Aries from the age of Taurus, the bull (like Jesus was ushering in Pisces). Aries was also known as the "Hired Hand" in ancient times, this will be relevant in a minute so remember that part.

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Notice too how the founders of Rome, Romulus and Remus, their father was said to be Mars aka Aries, the Ram. So that would essentially make this god a Roman/Egyptian war god. And since he does say "Blessed be Egypt, my people", I'd say thats hard to refute.

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The word for god in Hebrew is El. El comes from another word, that literally means Ram. Which comes from another word that means body/belly. So El essentially means the belly of the ram / beast. El was originally the god of the Canaanites. Obviously where IsraEL comes from. MichaEL, GabriEL, SamuEL, etc.

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So if this god is the Beast from the Sea (sea could refer to the literal sea or outer space as its defined in Genesis when the "waters" above and the waters below were separated by the firmament), that would make Moses the false prophet.



Revelation 13
11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast



Exodus 9
23 And Moses stretched forth his rod toward heaven: and the Lord sent thunder and hail, and the fire ran along upon the ground; and the Lord rained hail upon the land of Egypt.
24 So there was hail, and fire mingled with the hail, very grievous, such as there was none like it in all the land of Egypt since it became a nation.


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Moses was depicted as having 2 horns "like a lamb" in several old statues. Mainly because of a verse that one could translate to mean he had horns coming out of his face after he came down from Mt Sinai. Several prophets of this god brought fire from the sky and even this god himself says he orchestrated the entire Exodus event, including hardening Pharaohs heart, all so he could perform these destructive acts and show everyone how powerful he was so they would fear and worship him. Well what does Jesus think of this practice of bringing fire from heaven?


Luke 9
51 And it came to pass, when the time was come that he should be received up, he stedfastly set his face to go to Jerusalem,
52 And sent messengers before his face: and they went, and entered into a village of the Samaritans, to make ready for him.
53 And they did not receive him, because his face was as though he would go to Jerusalem.
54 And when his disciples James and John saw this, they said, Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did?
55 But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of.
56 For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them. And they went to another village.


So Jesus said the prophets of the god of Moses who brought fire down from the sky were of the spirit of the destroyer. The angel of the bottomless pit, Abaddon/Apollyon is the destroyer.

Matthew 5
17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19 Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.20 For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven.

Jesus contradicted practically every law Moses gave. From eye for an eye, to divorce, to stoning sinners. Literally right after this passage, he goes on to change the law. Saying things like "You have heard this, but I say this!". So what law is he speaking about here that shall not disappear? Certainly not the law Moses gave cause that went right out the window immediately.

John 10
34 Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your Law, ‘I have said you are “gods”’? 35 If he called them ‘gods,’ to whom the word of God came—and Scripture cannot be set aside— 36 what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world?

Here he is even referring to the law as "their" or "your" law. Why would he do that if it was his law too? Or even the one he created if he is God? People try to say "But he said 'I have said you are gods' as if to say that Jesus is saying he himself said that, completely ignoring the fact that he is simply quoting what the verse says. And notice when he says "If he called them gods", that 'he' is not capitalized? I may be wrong but I'm pretty sure all pronouns referring to God are capitalized. Even Father is capitalized.

Several times I believe Jesus is quoting this stuff at them purely to show how full of shit religion is. He'll purposefully do something against the current days teachings and then when he undoubtedly gets called out on it, he has something to point out about how full of shit they are every time. I don't think he's using it to speak ill of them for not upholding these laws insomuch as telling everyone else to while they don't practice what they preach.

Here is some more direct evidence of this god not being the Father Jesus speaks of.

Luke 4
Jesus was filled with the Holy Spirit as he left the Jordan River. The Spirit led him while he was in the desert, 2 where he was tempted by the devil for 40 days.
5 The devil led him up to a high place and showed him in an instant all the kingdoms of the world. 6 And he said to him, “I will give you all their authority and splendor; it has been given to me, and I can give it to anyone I want to. 7 If you worship me, it will all be yours.”
8 Jesus answered, “It is written: ‘Worship the Lord your God and serve him only.”


If Satan owns all the kingdoms of the world and can give them to anyone he wants like this passage says, who gave all that land to Abraham and Moses?


Aries: The Hired Hand


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John 10
“Very truly I tell you Pharisees, anyone who does not enter the sheep pen by the gate, but climbs in by some other way, is a thief and a robber. 2 The one who enters by the gate is the shepherd of the sheep.3 The gatekeeper opens the gate for him, and the sheep listen to his voice. He calls his own sheep by name and leads them out. 4 When he has brought out all his own, he goes on ahead of them, and his sheep follow him because they know his voice. 5 But they will never follow a stranger; in fact, they will run away from him because they do not recognize a stranger’s voice.” 6 Jesus used this figure of speech, but the Pharisees did not understand what he was telling them.
7 Therefore Jesus said again, “Very truly I tell you, I am the gate for the sheep. 8 All who have come before me are thieves and robbers, but the sheep have not listened to them. 9 I am the gate; whoever enters through me will be saved.[a] They will come in and go out, and find pasture. 10 The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full.
11 “I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep. 12 The hired hand is not the shepherd and does not own the sheep. So when he sees the wolf coming, he abandons the sheep and runs away. Then the wolf attacks the flock and scatters it. 13 The man runs away because he is a hired hand and cares nothing for the sheep.


Jesus says that ALL that came before him were thieves and robbers. Who do you think he could be talking about who doesn't enter through the gate and comes only to steal, kill and destroy? Who is this hired hand that abandons the sheep when the wolf comes and causes them to scatter? Didn't the god of Moses repeatedly command them infiltrate Canaan and to steal, kill and destroy entire countries of people and didn't he repeatedly abandon the Israelites and let the wolves come, which caused them to scatter all over the Earth? Wasn't the constellation Aries called the "Hired Hand" in ancient times? Aries, the Ram, which is what a root word of El, a word for god, means?


2 Corinthians 4
3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:
4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
Joshua 3
11 See, the ark of the covenant of the Lord of all the earth will go into the Jordan ahead of you.
John 18:36
Jesus said, “My kingdom is not of this world. If it were, my servants would fight to prevent my arrest by the Jewish leaders. But now my kingdom is from another place.”


Some other interesting telling passages.

The Lord's Share of Virgin Girls


Numbers 31
17 So kill all the boys and all the women who have had intercourse with a man. 18 Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves.
25 And the Lord said to Moses, 26 “You and Eleazar the priest and the family leaders of each tribe are to make a list of all the plunder taken in the battle, including the people and animals. 27 Then divide the plunder into two parts, and give half to the men who fought the battle and half to the rest of the people. 28 From the army’s portion, first give the Lord his share of the plunder—one of every 500 of the prisoners and of the cattle, donkeys, sheep, and goats.
31 So Moses and Eleazar the priest did as the Lord commanded Moses.
32 The plunder remaining from everything the fighting men had taken totaled 675,000 sheep and goats, 33 72,000 cattle, 34 61,000 donkeys, 35 and 32,000 virgin girls.
36 Half of the plunder was given to the fighting men. It totaled 337,500 sheep and goats, 37 of which 675 were the Lord’s share; 38 36,000 cattle, of which 72 were the Lord’s share; 39 30,500 donkeys, of which 61 were the Lord’s share; 40 and 16,000 virgin girls, of whom 32 were the Lord’s share.

Moses commands them to kill everyone except virgin girls, which they get to keep for themselves. I can't imagine what for. Here we have the god of Moses commanding his people to "kill, steal and destroy" this group of other people and telling them how to divide up everything they stole. Of which was 32,000 virgin girls. How they verified 32,000 girls were virgins, I don't want to know but I imagine that must have been time consuming. Of those 32,000 total virgins, "the Lord" got 32 of them. Now what does the god of the entire universe need with virgin girls and how exactly do you give him his "share"? Well I imagine you give him his share of virgin girls the same way you give him any other living creature. You butcher and burn them on the altar.

The Scapegoat Azazel


Leviticus 16
5 Aaron must take from the community of Israel two male goats for a sin offering and a ram for a burnt offering.
6 “Aaron will present his own bull as a sin offering to purify himself and his family, making them right with the Lord. 7 Then he must take the two male goats and present them to the Lord at the entrance of the Tabernacle. 8 He is to cast sacred lots to determine which goat will be reserved as an offering to the Lord and which will carry the sins of the people to the wilderness of Azazel. 9 Aaron will then present as a sin offering the goat chosen by lot for the Lord. 10 The other goat, the scapegoat chosen by lot to be sent away, will be kept alive, standing before the Lord. When it is sent away to Azazel in the wilderness, the people will be purified and made right with the Lord.

Here we have Aaron, brother of Moses and the head Levite priest from which they all descend from, creating a "scapegoat" to carry all the sins of the people and sacrificing it to Azazel by sending it into the wilderness or the desert.

The Hebrew word for male goat here is:

8163 sa'iyr
sa'iyr: devil
Original Word: שָׂעִיר Part of Speech: Adjective; noun masculine; noun masculine Transliteration: sa'iyr Phonetic Spelling: (saw-eer') Definition: hairy
devil, goat, hairy, kid, rough, satyr

So did the Israelites have goat demons just laying around to sacrifice? Notice the term "kid"? Thats the name of a baby goat. Gotta wonder why we call children "kids" when that is that a term for an animal that was sacrificially slaughtered thats associated with taking on sins and Satanism.

So they sent this goat out into the wilderness to Azazel. Well who is Azazel?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azazel
Azazel is a demon; he was sent a scapegoat bearing the sins of the Jews during Yom Kippur. In the Bible, he only appears in association with the scapegoat rite. During the Second Temple period, he appears as a fallen angel responsible for introducing humans to forbidden knowledge. His role as a fallen angel partly remains in Christian– and Islamic traditions. In Islam, he is often, but not exclusively, associated with the Devil.
According to the Book of Enoch, which brings Azazel into connection with the Biblical story of the fall of the angels, located on Mount Hermon, a gathering-place of demons of old, Azazel is one of the leaders of the rebellious Watchers in the time preceding the Flood; he taught men the art of warfare, of making swords, knives, shields, and coats of mail, and taught women the art of deception by ornamenting the body, dyeing the hair, and painting the face and the eyebrows, and also revealed to the people the secrets of witchcraft and corrupted their manners, leading them into wickedness and impurity until at last he was, at Yahweh's command, bound hand and foot by the archangel Raphael and chained to the rough and jagged rocks of [Ha] Dudael (= Beth Ḥadudo), where he is to abide in utter darkness until the great Day of Judgment, when he will be cast into the fire to be consumed forever.
The whole earth has been corrupted through the works that were taught by Azazel: to him ascribe all sin. Book of Enoch 10:8
According to the Book of Enoch (a book of the Apocrypha), Azazel (here spelled ‘ăzā’zyēl) was one of the chief Grigori, a group of fallen angels who married women.

So the god of Moses is ordering his Priest to send sacrifices to the demon fallen angel responsible for all sin. Think about that.

The Destroyer


1 Corinthians 10
9 We must not put Christ to the test, as some of them did and were destroyed by serpents, 10 nor grumble, as some of them did and were destroyed by the Destroyer.

Here is Paul directly referring to passages in Numbers and Exodus (referenced earlier) where the god of Moses killed the Israelites.

Numbers 16
31 And it came to pass, as he had made an end of speaking all these words, that the ground clave asunder that was under them: 32 And the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed them up, and their houses, and all the men that appertained unto Korah, and all their goods. 33 They, and all that appertained to them, went down alive into the pit, and the earth closed upon them: and they perished from among the congregation. 34 And all Israel that were round about them fled at the cry of them: for they said, Lest the earth swallow us up also. 35 And there came out a fire from the LORD, and consumed the two hundred and fifty men that offered incense.

First, there is this concept explained in the NT that is not backed up whatsoever in the Gospels. The idea that the god everyone sees in the OT is in fact really Jesus. This is to explain away the fact that the Gospels say that no man has ever seen God. Which is why he says they put Christ to the test, and not YHWH or "the Lord".

John 1:18
18 No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known.

1 John 4
2 No one has ever seen God; but if we love one another, God remains in us, and His love is perfected in us

Yet multiple times throughout the OT, it does indeed say that many people saw God. Like Jacob:

Genesis 32
30 So Jacob named the place Peniel, saying, “Indeed, I have seen God face to face, and yet my life was spared.”

and Moses.
Exodus 33:11
11 And the Lord spake unto Moses face to face, as a man speaketh unto his friend.

So Paul says they put Christ to the test and were destroyed by the Destroyer. Well that passage makes NO differentiation from God and this "destroyer". In fact, it literally says "the LORD" had fire come out from him and killed those people. The Lord in this passage (as the link shows) is literally YHWH aka Yahweh, the God of Israel.

3068. Yhvh
Strong's Concordance Yhvh: the proper name of the God of Israel Original Word: יְהוָֹה Part of Speech: Proper Name Transliteration: Yhvh Phonetic Spelling: (yeh-ho-vaw') Definition: the proper name of the God of Israel

So there's 2 passages directly linking the god of Moses to the Angel of the Bottomless pit. One directly from Jesus and another from Paul. In this passage "the Lord" consumes these people with fire, its even talking about the Earth opening up and people falling into the pit. The Angel of the Bottomless Pit (Abaddon/Apollyon) is considered by many to be the "Beast From the Sea" (also considered to be the Antichrist) and not a separate entity from him. If that is the case (I have no opinion as its all very convoluted at this point), then the fact that you have this same god describing HIMSELF exactly like the Beast From the Sea in Hosea 13 like I pointed out earlier, becomes literally impossible to refute and you have to accept that the god of the OT is a demon from Hell and not of the Father and he's certainly not the God that Jesus is referring to. He is not love. He is a murdering, psychopathic insane narcissist. He is a baby killer with a number that would make Planned Parenthood blush. He is a god of war, death and destruction and the cause of humanities ills by playing both sides against the middle. He cut us off from the feminine aspect of the spirit (the Holy Spirit Jesus refers to and the expulsion from the Garden of Eden represents cutting us off from it) which is why the world is the way it is right now.

As much of a deceiver as I believe Paul to be, this is probably the most important and profound chapter in the entire Bible as no truly good deception is complete without profound truth attached to it so that you may swallow them both whole. Honestly, you might not even need to read the rest of the Bible if you only had this part.

1 Corinthians 13
1 If I speak in the tongues of men or of angels, but do not have love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal. 2 If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing. 3 If I give all I possess to the poor and give over my body to hardship that I may boast, but do not have love, I gain nothing.
4 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5 It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.
8 Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away. 9 For we know in part and we prophesy in part, 10 but when completeness comes, what is in part disappears. 11 When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put the ways of childhood behind me. 12 For now we see only a reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.
13 And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.

And this to me, is the best case against the god of the OT being the real one true God of the entire universe. If Jesus is God and God is love, then the god of the Old Testament is hate because this sounds nothing like him. And if God is love and saying Gods name in vain is such a terrible thing, then pretending love is something else other than what it is must be the ultimate form of it.

31 To the Jews who had believed him, Jesus said, “If you hold to my teaching, you are really my disciples. 32 Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.”
33 They answered him, “We are Abraham’s descendants and have never been slaves of anyone. How can you say that we shall be set free?”
34 Jesus replied, “Very truly I tell you, everyone who sins is a slave to sin. 35 Now a slave has no permanent place in the family, but a son belongs to it forever. 36 So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed. 37 I know that you are Abraham’s descendants. Yet you are looking for a way to kill me, because you have no room for my word. 38 I am telling you what I have seen in the Father’s presence, and you are doing what you have heard from your father.”
39 “Abraham is our father,” they answered.
“If you were Abraham’s children,” said Jesus, “then you would do what Abraham did. 40 As it is, you are looking for a way to kill me, a man who has told you the truth that I heard from God. Abraham did not do such things. 41 You are doing the works of your own father.”
“We are not illegitimate children,” they protested. “The only Father we have is God himself.”
42 Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love me, for I have come here from God. I have not come on my own; God sent me.43 Why is my language not clear to you? Because you are unable to hear what I say. 44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies. 45 Yet because I tell the truth, you do not believe me! 46 Can any of you prove me guilty of sin? If I am telling the truth, why don’t you believe me? 47 Whoever belongs to God hears what God says. The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God.”

I'd say doing nothing but speaking ill of the Jews, the teachers of the law and straight up telling them their father is the devil himself should be a pretty clear indicator of what he's trying to say. Now maybe Abraham worshiped the "correct' god or maybe he didn't but he didn't try to kill people for speaking words and healing the sick.

And why would following Jesus's teachings let them know the truth, this truth that would set them free, if Moses already got the truth from God and gave it to the Israelites? Why didn't they already know the truth and what exactly is it that would set them free and why? Probably that their law is bogus and telling people they are sinners is what created sin in the first place. How can you be set free from sin just with knowledge if we're all sinners? By knowing you're not a sinner. That you're not guilty of anything that is so horrible that you should carry that around like an anchor attached to your neck, dragging you down. Which is the whole point of making sure we all think we're terrible sinners who need a savior in the first place. Classic problem, reaction, solution. "You're all sinners who are condemned to hell but guess what? Due to my amazing mercy, for the low low price of your entire existence and soul, you can have salvation!" They both provide the sin and the salvation from sin. Like a drug dealer who runs a rehab clinic and owns a prison.

John 8
2 At dawn he appeared again in the temple courts, where all the people gathered around him, and he sat down to teach them. 3 The teachers of the law and the Pharisees brought in a woman caught in adultery. They made her stand before the group 4 and said to Jesus, “Teacher, this woman was caught in the act of adultery. 5 In the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women. Now what do you say?” 6 They were using this question as a trap, in order to have a basis for accusing him.
But Jesus bent down and started to write on the ground with his finger.7 When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, “Let any one of you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her.” 8 Again he stooped down and wrote on the ground.
9 At this, those who heard began to go away one at a time, the older ones first, until only Jesus was left, with the woman still standing there.10 Jesus straightened up and asked her, “Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?”
11 “No one, sir,” she said.
“Then neither do I condemn you,” Jesus declared. “Go now and leave your life of sin.”

Earlier in that same chapter, we have this famous story. Jesus is again, contradicting the law of Moses. He says whoever is without sin can throw the first stone. Jesus is without sin isn't he? Why didn't he throw a stone if Moses law is Gods law? Well they all scatter and Jesus asks her if anyone has condemned her and since everyone ran off, she says no. To which Jesus says then neither do I, leave your life of sin. By pointing out that everyone is a "sinner", that means no one is. And no one can accuse another of sin without accusing themselves. And if no one is accusing you, then Satan and sin cease to exist since Satan IS the accuser. Thats why he tells her to go and leave her life of sin. She has no accusers left to convict her of sin. Thats the truth that sets you free.
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Submission Bibles that Uses God’s name?
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Author yoyo01323
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The only bible I’m familiar with that uses Gods name is The New World Translation. The Jehovah’s Witness or Watchtowers have replaced the name lord with Jehovah.
And I’m used to this. I’m not a witness, and have never even been to a meeting. But the new world translation is the only bible I’m familiar with. And have always thought it right to Use Gods name, as he wishes for people to call him that.
I’m trying to research other bibles to use. As I’m on a journey to read the Bible more and actually know it’s contents.
I’m wondering if there’s any other bible versions that use gods name whether it’s YHWH or Jehovah. I’m very curious. Thank you.
Edit: Thank you for those giving gold or silver. I’m just here to learn. I don’t know how to use reddit much so thanks

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Author Tekmantwo
Posted On Sun Feb 03 02:30:15 EST 2019
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You said you are familiar with the NWT, look in the back sections and find the sections A4 and A5. They explain very well why the personal Name of God, Jehovah, is rightfully restored to His Holy Word.
All these people that are misleading you are not doing you any favors.
If you don't have your own personal copy of the Bible you can visit JW.ORG. and download one for free.
You can even request a paper copy to be sent to you, also, you can check out the free Bible study guides found on the site. You can study online at a rate that is comfortable to you, for free, no obligation.
Then, you can compare it to any other Bible you wish. If you want to, download the JW Library app, then you can do tons of research and discover for yourself what the Truth is.
The most important thing is to approach God in prayer with sincerity and ask Him to help you find the Truth. He can read your heart so if you can't seem to find the right words, no problem, He will still understand what your heart wants and He will help you. He promises us that, and, He can not lie....
https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/online-lessons/
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Author proxyflex
Posted On Thu Feb 21 04:55:30 EST 2019
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I already gave OP my recommendation and warned against the NWT for reasons stated here.
From what I’ve garnered from this conversation my assumption is that you have a background as or simply are a Jehovah’s Witness due to your usage of the term “God’s name” referring only to “Jehovah” despite problems with that term (especially if you are serious about using the Name) and referring to the NT as the “Christian Greek Scriptures” which is itself extremely uncommon.
So this isn’t so much helpful to OP as much as it is reflecting a sectarian perspective.
I don’t have an issue with Jehovah’s Witnesses or you being a Jehovah’s Witness; I accept them as equally Christian (albeit within the larger Nontrinitarian family in which I myself also identify with) as more “mainstream” sects, but you have to understand why making a sectarian argument isn’t helpful.
Using the Name in the Bible is one thing and there are plenty of translations that do so without forcing it in there. Bibles that force it in where it is not is entirely different from what OP is asking and that needs to be made clear.
Anyway, I’m going to bed, so have a good night. God bless.
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Author Quixotism95
Posted On Sun Feb 03 10:11:37 EST 2019
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Thank you for the article. I will complain, though, that a good percentage of this article engages in mudslinging, such as in the exaggerated statement that the New World Translation has "no hard textual grounds" for its translation. I have already demonstrated otherwise in my previous comment.
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Author Chatterboxj
Posted On Sat Feb 02 18:41:00 EST 2019
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Literally almost any other translation other then the “New World Translation” would be a better translation. That one is exclusively used by the Jehovahs Witness group and was deliberately altered or mistranslated to fit their heresy that Jesus is not God. Any decent study Bible will point out which honorific, title or name of God is used when he is named specifically. He has many titles.
For easier or more beginning reading try a thought for thought translation like the NIV or NLT. For more word for word studies or literal translation, the ESV, NASB NKJV and others are great. All are great modern translations from the best Hebrew and Greek manuscripts available. For the beauty and poetry of the older English, the KJV is always a nice choice. It is older translation that was well done but was limited by the manuscripts they had available at the time. ANY and ALL of these would be better then the NWT.
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Author Quixotism95
Posted On Sun Feb 03 17:19:00 EST 2019
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no new testament text contains a greek transliteration of יהוה.
Yes, and for this reason, every instance of the name "Jehovah" in the New Testament is marked with an asterisk in the 2013 revision of the New World Translation. The Divine Name King James Bible handles the usage of "Jehovah" similarly in its Christian texts.
In section A5 of its appendix (The Divine Name in the Christian Greek Scriptures), the translation committee for the New World Translation states its reasons for using the name in the Greek Scriptures.
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Author dvc214
Posted On Sat Feb 02 17:34:21 EST 2019
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You need to be aware that the New world translation biases it’s translation based on the beliefs of Jehovahs witnesses. The technical translation in many significant passages are not faithful or credible, nor accepted by most experts.
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Author wthit56
Posted On Thu Feb 21 02:46:02 EST 2019
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I am aware (and it's mentioned in the article) that most Bible translators do not use God's name in the Christian Greek Scriptures. But I think the article explains their decision well.
Here's the correct link: A5. (Sorry for the link mix up. It's now fixed.)
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Author wthit56
Posted On Thu Feb 21 05:09:03 EST 2019
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Okay. I wasn't really looking to argue a point or make an academic case. I thought all the more academic discussion went in /AcademicBiblical. It's interesting how different view the Bible, though.
I am a Jehovah's Witness, yes. But I wasn't trying to push my beliefs or anything. Just curious.
G'night.
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Author dvc214
Posted On Sun Feb 03 03:12:35 EST 2019
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Rather than write reams of text in this thread, the work has already been done here - https://www.gotquestions.org/New-World-Translation.html
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Author Double-Portion
Posted On Sun Feb 03 00:13:07 EST 2019
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Fun fact: Jehovah’s Witnesses are known for modifying their beliefs when their prophecies fail like they did in 1878, 1881, 1914, 1918, 1925, and 1975. They are known for strict hierarchy, and shunning anyone who disagrees with them.
Anecdotally I was hanging out with some friends in Oakland when some JWs called us over and started trying to evangelize us when we started quoting scripture back at them, and the conversation ended with us being denounced as “Trinitarians!” And being told to leave them alone
Edit: they’re to their
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Author Tekmantwo
Posted On Sat Feb 02 20:09:25 EST 2019
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It definitely matters. JW.ORG
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Author BERBWIRE_ORDER
Posted On Sun Feb 03 01:16:36 EST 2019
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Many experts praise The New World Translation of the Bible. It just happens that most experts are connected to rival religious groups, and they have more of a problem with Jehovah's Witnesses than their translation. People felt the same way about Luther's Bible for pointing out the shortcomings of traditional religion in his day. So obviously the larger groups have an interest in saying it's not credible.
It's also of interest to note that Jehovah's Witnesses taught people for almost a century using traditional translations, and some in other countries with limited Bibles still do. So they don't need their own translation to push their ideas because their ideas were always in the Bible.
If anyone wants to find out more about The New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures then check out: https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1991167#h=3:0-3:233
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Author BERBWIRE_ORDER
Posted On Tue Feb 05 23:21:41 EST 2019
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There is evidence that the divine name was originally in the NT. There are also many other Bible translations that have made the decision to put the divine name in the NT. So Jehovah's Witnesses are not the only people that believe that God's name was removed from the NT. Here is a link to the appendix of the New World Translation that explains why they included God's name: https://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/nwt/appendix-a/divine-name-christian-greek-scriptures/
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Author dvc214
Posted On Sun Feb 03 03:14:08 EST 2019
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https://www.gotquestions.org/New-World-Translation.html
See this link I posted in another comment thread
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Author Quixotism95
Posted On Sun Feb 03 16:09:13 EST 2019
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Not really mud slinging when it's the truth.
When an article has a clear agenda and begins by painting a negative image of another party to push said agenda: it's mudslinging.
The above comment has made the claim that the New World Translation is biased, and yet this same assertion is being backed up using a source that is itself clearly biased.
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Author tempkem
Posted On Sat Feb 02 20:07:56 EST 2019
Score 4 as of Fri Mar 01 10:49:25 EST 2019
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Just so you know: the New World Translation inserts the name "Jehovah" in places where "YHWH" is not found in the source texts. "YHWH" occurs about 6800 times in the Old Testament and zero times in the New Testament, yet in NWT it occurs about 7200 times (I think). Most of the additions are in the New Testament.
If you want to read a reasonable translation that uses the name, the New Jerusalem Bible would probably be my recommendation.
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Author Tekmantwo
Posted On Sat Feb 02 19:38:44 EST 2019
Score -8 as of Fri Mar 01 10:49:25 EST 2019
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Completely wrong info....in fact, just about the opposite of the truth.
The NWT is the most accurate translation available today. The translation team went to extraordinary lenghths to ensure the accuracy of this Bible.
Fun fact: Jehovahs Witnesses are known for modifying their beliefs if a more accurate understanding of something is discovered. We don't stand on tradition, we follow Gods Word as closely as we can, as best as we know how....if that means changing, then, so be it...
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Author proxyflex
Posted On Thu Feb 21 04:19:05 EST 2019
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Um, the article is not exactly an objective source on this. So, there’s no argument here from an objective, non-sectarian position which is problematic all on its own and I hope you understand why I can’t accept that. Even if you believe their position to be justified, you can’t expect others to accept these arguments unless you have objective, academic sources that can corroborate them.
Unless you yourself are a Jehovah’s Witness whose Christianity emphasizes use of the Name (an archaic variation btw), then there’s no objective or academic argument that I am aware of for the use of the Name in the NT especially when the most ancient manuscripts (and almost certainly the authors themselves) did not use the Name or intend to since casual use of the Name was considered irreverant and, potentially, blasphemous going back at least 300 years before Jesus’ birth.
Furthermore, as I mentioned above, the dated use of the name “Jehovah” itself is problematic since more recent scholarship generally suggests “Yahweh” as a more accurate (albeit still hypothetical) articulation.
So, objectively, there little if any reason to include the Name in the NT, and even if we forced its way into it, “Jehovah” is outdated and less accurate a translation of the OT Name.
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Author IsaacCG
Posted On Sun Feb 03 11:56:27 EST 2019
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The new world translation is one of (if not) the most corrupt “translations” of scripture currently available. I’d advise against using it. The Holman Christian Bible renders YHWH when it appears in the OT as Yahweh in the stead of the LORD (as most translations do).
Jehovah is not God’s name, it’s a transliteration error based on a misunderstanding of the Hebrew Scriptures.
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Author Quixotism95
Posted On Sun Feb 03 14:39:52 EST 2019
Score 2 as of Fri Mar 01 10:49:29 EST 2019
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I challenge you to find a Greek grammar (secular or religious) that agrees with the NWT considering this verse.
I haven't read it yet myself, but I'm aware that Jason David BeDuhn of Northern Arizona University calls the New World Translation a "remarkably good" translation in his published study: Truth in Translation: Accuracy and Bias in English Translations of the New Testament.
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Author Quixotism95
Posted On Sat Feb 02 20:58:04 EST 2019
Score -1 as of Fri Mar 01 10:49:29 EST 2019
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Besides John 1:1 (which was translated as it is in the NWT due to scholarly outputs from early Sahidic Coptic manuscripts of the New Testament) what are some of these verses you consider to be mistranslated?
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Author wthit56
Posted On Wed Feb 20 16:23:56 EST 2019
Score 1 as of Fri Mar 01 10:49:29 EST 2019
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There's quite an interesting article on this subject in an appendix of the New World Translation. I would paraphrase from it, but there are so many good points made I thought it would make more sense to just link you to it online. [link]
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Author proxyflex
Posted On Wed Feb 20 17:09:58 EST 2019
Score 1 as of Fri Mar 01 10:49:29 EST 2019
Conversation Size 6
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The New World Translation is notoriously problematic among Bible scholars and is considered more a sectarian revision than a accurate translation.
Also, that link is for video game stuff lol
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2018.10.12 13:13 AgentSmithRadio Jesus said, “Feed my sheep." - My attempt to reach out to the homeless.

Earlier this week I felt challenged when I saw a post from a user who spent his time on the weekend feeing the poor. Allow me to explain the situation.
On my drive home from work, I get to make a left at this mess of an intersection. It is fed by a major arterial road and two highway off-ramps, and it’s a hectic one-way street, even outside of rush hour. This has made this intersection incredibly popular for panhandlers in recent months, and they’re everywhere, every day.
The City of Hamilton has a real homeless problem. Short of getting into some harsh political commentary against my provincial government for failing these people, the services we provide for them aren’t adequate for satisfying the needs of those who are the worst off in our society. This is compounded by a years-long waitlist for affordable housing programs, housing affordability as bad as it was in the late 80’s and a stressed food bank system aided by seemingly tireless volunteers. There’s no lack of homeless shelters, but there’s definitely a lack of resources, as I have been forced to hear time and time again when I meet the people who work for these organizations.
The City is dabbling with safe injection sites but this doesn’t prevent fentanyl-laced and otherwise tainted drugs from hitting the streets. I’ve heard it said that homeless care is often akin to hospice care, and it angers me that this is acceptable. There’s a need, and I haven’t been doing very much about it. The thing is, this should piss me off, and I should do something about it, because this is exactly the sort of thing that the Apostle James was referring to in: James 2:14-17 (NIV)
Faith and Deeds
14 What good is it, my brothers and sisters, if someone claims to have faith but has no deeds? Can such faith save them?15 Suppose a brother or a sister is without clothes and daily food. 16 If one of you says to them, “Go in peace; keep warm and well fed,” but does nothing about their physical needs, what good is it? 17 In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead.
It’s not as if there aren’t endless citations in support of doing something. How about 1 John 3:16-18 (NIV)
16 This is how we know what love is: Jesus Christ laid down his life for us. And we ought to lay down our lives for our brothers and sisters. 17 If anyone has material possessions and sees a brother or sister in need but has no pity on them, how can the love of God be in that person? 18 Dear children, let us not love with words or speech but with actions and in truth.
How about: Luke 14:12-14 (NIV)
12 Then Jesus said to his host, “When you give a luncheon or dinner, do not invite your friends, your brothers or sisters, your relatives, or your rich neighbors; if you do, they may invite you back and so you will be repaid. 13 But when you give a banquet, invite the poor, the crippled, the lame, the blind, 14 and you will be blessed. Although they cannot repay you, you will be repaid at the resurrection of the righteous.”
And: Proverbs 19:17 (NIV)
17 Whoever is kind to the poor lends to the LORD, and he will reward them for what they have done.
John the Baptist weighs in in: Luke 3:11 (NIV)
11 John answered, “Anyone who has two shirts should share with the one who has none, and anyone who has food should do the same.”
And in case you didn’t feel like being happy this morning: Matthew 25:31-46 (NIV)
The Sheep and the Goats
31 “When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his glorious throne. 32 All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33 He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.
34 “Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world.35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’
37 “Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’
40 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’
41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’
44 “They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’
45 “He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’
46 “Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”
It’s not like I haven’t done something for the poor. I’ve given to panhandlers, I’ve donated to those who serve them, my church aids in their plight and I’ve given away food. This week, I didn’t feel like I was doing enough. I’m not a prophet, but generally the answer to this problem is that I need to do more.
Going back to the intersection I mentioned at the start of this article, I’ve noticed a few things. First off, the people who panhandle at this location are all men. Second, they’re frequently very hungry, and they’ll sprint across the intersection to grab anything from a banana, to a granola bar, to a bottle of water. Third, some of them sleep under the few trees in the area, and the police don’t come by often to shoo them out. They’re there for hours at a time, and while the people at each individual intersection seem to change, it tends to be the same few people who come by to beg in the one-block area on a daily basis, and they’ve been coming for months.
So I thought, why don’t I make some care packages? The sort of thing that can sit in the well of the passenger seat of my car, The whole area ia awkward to navigate, so why don’t I just hand them out the window whenever there’s someone begging at the intersection? I can throw in some food/drink, hygiene products, a pair of socks and some creature comforts. Why not throw in a Bible for good measure? They can burn it or barter it for all I care, but it’s not like they’re super-expensive.
So, I did exactly that. This link leads to a photo album showing the assembly and issues I had to deal with. I went a bit excessive on my first go with making 6 care packages.
They contain:
  1. One washable mesh carrying bag.
  2. One pair of men's athletic socks.
  3. One 200yd package of mint dental floss.
  4. One toothbrush.
  5. One bar of Irish Spring deodorant soap.
  6. Fifteen (give or take) hand sanitizeanti-septic wipes.
  7. One 60ml tube of Colgate flouride toothpaste.
  8. One 57g tube of Udderly Smooth hand cream.
  9. One 3oz stick of Degree antiperspirant.
  10. Two packs of Excel spearmint gum.
  11. Five-Six 23g snack-packs of Mott's fruit gummies.
  12. One cup of organic applesauce.
  13. One five-pack box of Nature Valley sweet and salty almond bars.
  14. Two 26g snack-packs of Goldfish crackers.
  15. Two tetra-packs of Nestle Iced Tea. (Supplemented by two cans)
  16. One NLT New Testament Pocket Bible with simple commentary and resources.
  17. One 5-pack of Hot Rods pepperette sticks.
  18. Two packs of beef ramen.
  19. Four disposable 2-blade razors.
  20. Two 500ml water bottles.
  21. One printout containing addresses and phone numbers for local shelters and support services.
I imagine that these will be gone within a week.
Now, one final citation: John 21:15-19 (NIV)
Jesus Reinstates Peter
15 When they had finished eating, Jesus said to Simon Peter, “Simon son of John, do you love me more than these?”
“Yes, Lord,” he said, “you know that I love you.”
Jesus said, “Feed my lambs.”
16 Again Jesus said, “Simon son of John, do you love me?”
He answered, “Yes, Lord, you know that I love you.”
Jesus said, “Take care of my sheep.”
17 The third time he said to him, “Simon son of John, do you love me?”
Peter was hurt because Jesus asked him the third time, “Do you love me?” He said, “Lord, you know all things; you know that I love you.”
Jesus said, “Feed my sheep. 18 Very truly I tell you, when you were younger you dressed yourself and went where you wanted; but when you are old you will stretch out your hands, and someone else will dress you and lead you where you do not want to go.” 19 Jesus said this to indicate the kind of death by which Peter would glorify God. Then he said to him, “Follow me!”
Have an awesome weekend.
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2018.05.20 00:38 Gods_Auxiliary Part II. Jesus is the Son of God only from reading John. I will continue in the New Testament summarizing as I go along.

----------------------Guilt of Sin----------------------
John 9:41 Jesus said, “If you were blind, you would not be guilty of sin; but now that you claim you can see, your guilt remains.
Including this and others to show Jesus talked about Sin.
----------------------The Father Knows Me and I Know The Father----------------------
John 10:14-15
14 “I am the good shepherd; I know my sheep and my sheep know me— 15 just as the Father knows me and I know the Father—and I lay down my life for the sheep.
There are verses used similar to 'the Father knows me and I know the Father'.
If this verse claims Jesus to be one and the same with the Father, then 'I know my sheep and my sheep know me' implies that Jesus is one and the same with the sheep. Which everyone knows Jesus is not.
----------------------I and the Father are One----------------------
John 10:30 I and the Father are one.”
From the NIV notes:
one. The Greek is neuter (latin for not either) - "one thing," not "one person." The two are one in essence or nature, but they are not identical persons.
John 10:33 “We are not stoning you for any good work,” they replied (the Jews), “but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God.”
Keep on reading.
John 10:34-36
34 Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your Law, ‘I have said you are “gods”’? 35 If he called them ‘gods,’ to whom the word of God came—and Scripture cannot be set aside— 36 what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world? Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, ‘I am God’s Son’?
John 10:36 '...Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, ‘I am God’s Son’?'
Jesus explicitly said, 'I am God's Son'.
John 10:34 'Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your Law, ‘I have said you are “gods”’?'
...you are “gods”’? is from Psalms.
Psalms 82:1-7
1 God presides in the great assembly; he renders judgment among the “gods”:
2 “How long will you defend the unjust and show partiality to the wicked? 3 Defend the weak and the fatherless; uphold the cause of the poor and the oppressed. 4 Rescue the weak and the needy; deliver them from the hand of the wicked.
5 “The ‘gods’ know nothing, they understand nothing. They walk about in darkness; all the foundations of the earth are shaken.
6 “I said, ‘You are “gods”; you are all sons of the Most High.’ 7 But you will die like mere mortals; you will fall like every other ruler.”
Look at Psalms 82:5-6
5 “The ‘gods’ know nothing, they understand nothing. They walk about in darkness; all the foundations of the earth are shaken.
6 “I said, ‘You are “gods”; you are all sons of the Most High.’
‘You are “gods” is what Jesus was saying in John 10:34.
Psalms 82:6 '...you are all sons of the Most High'.
The Most High is the I Am who I Am from the Old Testament. The One that gave the name to Moses.
The Jews wrongly accused Jesus saying he is a God. When Jesus rebuked them and said this:
John 10:34-36
34 Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your Law, ‘I have said you are “gods”’? 35 If he called them ‘gods,’ to whom the word of God came—and Scripture cannot be set aside— 36 what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world? Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, ‘I am God’s Son’?
Jesus was saying He is God's Son not a God, which the Jews misunderstood thinking Jesus said he is a God.
It was the Jews misunderstanding.
----------------------Father is in Me, and I in the Father----------------------
John 10:37-38
37 Do not believe me unless I do the works of my Father. 38 But if I do them, even though you do not believe me, believe the works, that you may know and understand that the Father is in me, and I in the Father.”
Father is in me, and I in the Father is a metaphor again. I have nothing from the NIV Notes.
This does not explicitly state that Jesus is a God.
John 10:36 what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world? Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, ‘I am God’s Son’?
Jesus explicitly stated that he is God's Son.
----------------------Jesus Thanks the Father Separate from Jesus----------------------
John 11:41-42
41 So they took away the stone. Then Jesus looked up and said, “Father, I thank you that you have heard me. 42 I knew that you always hear me, but I said this for the benefit of the people standing here, that they may believe that you sent me.”
----------------------The Father will Honor the One who Serves Jesus----------------------
John 12:26 Whoever serves me must follow me; and where I am, my servant also will be. My Father will honor the one who serves me.
Jesus mentions the Father separate from Jesus.
----------------------Voice Came from Heaven----------------------
John 12:28-29
28 Father, glorify your name!” Then a voice came from heaven, “I have glorified it, and will glorify it again.”
29 The crowd that was there and heard it said it had thundered; others said an angel had spoken to him.
Jesus asked the Father to glorify his name and the Father responded back from the heaven.
Though, the crowd heard a thunder or claimed an angel have spoken.
----------------------Jesus and the Father----------------------
John 12:44-45
44 Then Jesus cried out, “Whoever believes in me does not believe in me only, but in the one who sent me. 45 The one who looks at me is seeing the one who sent me.
Jesus comes from the one who sent him (the Father).
'The one who looks at me is seeing the one who sent me'.
This is still a metaphor. Is Jesus explicitly stating that he is a God? If so, Jesus is contradicting what he stated at:
John 10:36 'what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world? Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, ‘I am God’s Son’?'
Jesus explicitly states he is God's Son. But at John 10 Verse 45 Jesus is implicitly stating he is a God.
I have what Jesus explicitly stated. I will go with what Jesus explicitly stated.
----------------------The Father Judges, Not Jesus----------------------
John 12:46-50
46 I have come into the world as a light, so that no one who believes in me should stay in darkness. 47 “If anyone hears my words but does not keep them, I do not judge that person. For I did not come to judge the world, but to save the world. 48 There is a judge for the one who rejects me and does not accept my words; the very words I have spoken will condemn them at the last day. 49 For I did not speak on my own, but the Father who sent me commanded me to say all that I have spoken. 50 I know that his command leads to eternal life. So whatever I say is just what the Father has told me to say.”
'There is a judge for the one who rejects me and does not accept my words; the very words I have spoken will condemn them at the last day.' 'For I did not speak on my own, but the Father who sent me commanded me to say all that I have spoken'
Jesus submits to the Father (the Judge). There is an order.
----------------------Jesus Came from God and is Returning to God----------------------
John 13:3 Jesus knew that the Father had put all things under his power, and that he had come from God and was returning to God
'Jesus knew that the Father had put all things under his power'
Yes, Jesus has Deity like powers, but he is not a God.
----------------------I Am He----------------------
John 13:19 “I am telling you now before it happens, so that when it does happen you will believe that I am He.
From the NIV.
But in,
John 4:23-26
23 Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in the Spirit and in truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks. 24 God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in the Spirit and in truth.”
25 The woman said, “I know that Messiah” (called Christ) “is coming. When he comes, he will explain everything to us.”
26 Then Jesus declared, “I, the one speaking to you—'I am he'.”
In John 4:26 Jesus declares, “I, the one speaking to you—'I am he'.”
Jesus is answering what the woman said, “I know that Messiah” (called Christ) “is coming. When he comes, he will explain everything to us.”
Jesus is saying he is the Messiah.
Messiah - a leader or savior of a particular group or cause.
And in,
John 8:21-28
21 Once more Jesus said to them, “I am going away, and you will look for me, and you will die in your sin. Where I go, you cannot come.”
22 This made the Jews ask, “Will he kill himself? Is that why he says, ‘Where I go, you cannot come’?”
23 But he continued, “You are from below; I am from above. You are of this world; I am not of this world. 24 I told you that you would die in your sins; if you do not believe that 'I am he', you will indeed die in your sins.”
25 “Who are you?” they asked.
“Just what I have been telling you from the beginning,” Jesus replied.
26 “I have much to say in judgment of you. But he who sent me is trustworthy, and what I have heard from him I tell the world.”
27 They did not understand that he was telling them about his Father. 28 So Jesus said, “When you have lifted up the Son of Man, then you will know that 'I am he' and that I do nothing on my own but speak just what the Father has taught me.
John 8:24 '...if you do not believe that 'I am he', you will indeed die in your sins.'
Jesus is telling them that he is the Messiah.
Messiah - a leader or savior of a particular group or cause.
John 8:26-27
26 “I have much to say in judgment of you. But he who sent me is trustworthy, and what I have heard from him I tell the world.”
27 They did not understand that he was telling them about his Father.
John 8:28 So Jesus said, “When you have lifted up the Son of Man, then you will know that 'I am he' and that I do nothing on my own but speak just what the Father has taught me.
All the translations of what Jesus states at John 13:19
KJ21 Now I tell you before it come that, when it is come to pass, ye may believe that I am He.
ASV From henceforth I tell you before it come to pass, that, when it is come to pass, ye may believe that I am he.
AMP From now on I am telling you [what will happen] before it occurs, so that when it does take place you may believe that I am He [who I say I am—the Christ, the Anointed, the Messiah].
AMPC I tell you this now before it occurs, so that when it does take place you may be persuaded and believe that I am He [Who I say I am—the Christ, the Anointed One, the Messiah].
KJ21 and ASV states I am He. AMP and AMPC states I am He [Who I say I am—the Christ, the Anointed One, the Messiah]
BRG Now I tell you before it come, that, when it is come to pass, ye may believe that I am he.
CSB I am telling you now before it happens, so that when it does happen you will believe that I am he.
CEB “I’m telling you this now, before it happens, so that when it does happen you will believe that I Am.
CJB I’m telling you now, before it happens; so that when it does happen, you may believe that I AM [who I say I am].
CEV I am telling you this before it all happens. Then when it does happen, you will believe who I am.
BRG, CSB, and CEV (implicitly) states I am he. CEB and CJB states I Am.
DARBY I tell you [it] now before it happens, that when it happens, ye may believe that I am [he].
DLNT From now on, I am telling you ahead of it taking place, in order that when it takes place you may believe that I am the One.
DRA At present I tell you, before it come to pass: that when it shall come to pass, you may believe that I am he.
ERV I am telling you this now before it happens. Then when it happens, you will believe that I Am.
EHV I am telling you this right now before it happens, so that when it does happen, you may believe that I am he.
ESV I am telling you this now, before it takes place, that when it does take place you may believe that I am he.
ESVUK I am telling you this now, before it takes place, that when it does take place you may believe that I am he.
EXB I am telling you this now before it happens so that when it happens, you will believe that ·I am he [L I am; C this may be an allusion to God’s (Yahweh’s) self identification as “I AM” in Ex. 3:14, or to God’s repeated claim that “I am he” throughout Is. 40—55; see John 8:24, 28, 58].
DARBY, DRA, EHV, ESV and ESVUK states I am he. ERV states I Am. EXB stated may be an allusion to God's self identification.
GNV From henceforth tell I you before it come, that when it is come to pass, ye might believe that I am he.
GW I’m telling you now before it happens. Then, when it happens, you will believe that I am the one.
GNT I tell you this now before it happens, so that when it does happen, you will believe that ‘I Am Who I Am.’
HCSB “I am telling you now before it happens, so that when it does happen you will believe that I am He.
ICB I am telling you this now before it happens. Then when it happens you will believe that I am he.
ISV I’m telling you this now, before it happens, so that when it does happen, you may believe that I AM.
PHILLIPS From now onwards, I shall tell you about things before they happen, so that when they do happen, you may believe that I am the one I claim to be. I tell you truly that anyone who accepts my messenger will be accepting me, and anyone who accepts me will be accepting the one who sent me.”
GNV, GW (implicit), HCSB, ICB, and PHILLIPS (implicit) states I am he. GNT states I Am Who I Am. ISV states I Am.
JUB now I tell you before it is done, so that, when it is come to pass, ye may believe that I AM.
KJV Now I tell you before it come, that, when it is come to pass, ye may believe that I am he.
AKJV Now I tell you before it come, that, when it is come to pass, ye may believe that I am he.
LEB From now on I am telling you before it happens, in order that when it happens you may believe that I am he.
TLB I tell you this now so that when it happens, you will believe on me.
MSG “I’m not including all of you in this. I know precisely whom I’ve selected, so as not to interfere with the fulfillment of this Scripture: The one who ate bread at my table Turned on his heel against me. “I’m telling you all this ahead of time so that when it happens you will believe that I am who I say I am. Make sure you get this right: Receiving someone I send is the same as receiving me, just as receiving me is the same as receiving the One who sent me.”
KJV, AKJV, LEB, TLB (implicit) states I am he. JUB states I Am. MSG states I am who I say I am.
MEV “Now I tell you before it happens, that when it does happen, you may believe that I am He.
MOUNCE I am telling you this now, before it takes place, so that when it does take place you will believe that I am he.
NOG I’m telling you now before it happens. Then, when it happens, you will believe that I am the one.
NABRE From now on I am telling you before it happens, so that when it happens you may believe that I AM.
NASB From now on I am telling you before it comes to pass, so that when it does occur, you may believe that I am He.
NCV I am telling you this now before it happens so that when it happens, you will believe that I am he.
NET I am telling you this now, before it happens, so that when it happens you may believe that I am he.
MEV, MOUNCE, NOG (implicit), NASB, NCV, and NET states I am he. NABRE states I Am.
NIRV “I am telling you now, before it happens. When it does happen, you will believe that I am who I am.
NIV “I am telling you now before it happens, so that when it does happen you will believe that I am who I am.
NIVUK ‘I am telling you now before it happens, so that when it does happen you will believe that I am who I am.
NKJV Now I tell you before it comes, that when it does come to pass, you may believe that I am He.
NLV I tell you this now before it happens. After it happens, you will believe that I am Who I say I am, the Christ.
NLT I tell you this beforehand, so that when it happens you will believe that I am the Messiah.
NKJV states I am He. NLV, and NLT states Christ or I am the Messiah. NIRV, NIV, and NIVUK states I am who I am.
NMB Now I tell you before it happens, so that when it has come to pass, you may believe that I am he.
NRSV I tell you this now, before it occurs, so that when it does occur, you may believe that I am he.
NRSVA I tell you this now, before it occurs, so that when it does occur, you may believe that I am he.
NRSVACE I tell you this now, before it occurs, so that when it does occur, you may believe that I am he.
NRSVCE I tell you this now, before it occurs, so that when it does occur, you may believe that I am he.
NTE I’m telling you this now, before it happens, so that when it does happen you may believe that I am who I am.
OJB From now on I tell you before the occurrence that you may have emunah (faith) when it occurs, that Ani Hu. [YESHAYAH 41:4; 46:10; 43:10]
NMB, NRSV, NRSVA, NRSVACE, and NRSVCE states I am he. NTE states I am who I am. I do not know about OJB.
TPT I am telling you this now, before it happens, so that when the prophecy comes to pass you will be convinced that I AM.
RSV I tell you this now, before it takes place, that when it does take place you may believe that I am he.
RSVCE I tell you this now, before it takes place, that when it does take place you may believe that I am he.
TLV From now on I am telling you, before it happens, so that when it happens you may believe that I am.
VOICE Assuredly, I tell you these truths before they happen so that when it all transpires, you will believe that I am.
WEB From now on, I tell you before it happens, that when it happens, you may believe that I am he.
WE `I am telling you this now before it happens. So when it happens you will believe who I am.
WYC Truly, I say to you before it be done, that when it is done, ye believe that I am.
YLT `From this time I tell you, before its coming to pass, that, when it may come to pass, ye may believe that I am [he];
RSV, RSVCE, WEB, and YLT states I am he. TPT, TLV, VOICE, WE, and WYC states I am.
Results,
There are 31 translations of I am he. There are 4 translations of I am the Messiah. There are 6 translations of I am. There are 7 translations of I am who I am (or close to it).
In conclusion, there are 31 translations of 'I am he' and 4 translations of 'I am the Messiah' which I pointed back to Jesus claiming to be the Messiah; not a God.
----------------------Trust in God and Jesus----------------------
John 14:1 “Do not let your hearts be troubled. You believe in God; believe also in me.
Separation of God and Jesus.
----------------------Jesus the Way to the Father----------------------
John 14:6-11
6 Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. 7 If you really know me, you will know my Father as well. From now on, you do know him and have seen him.”
8 Philip said, “Lord, show us the Father and that will be enough for us.”
9 Jesus answered: “Don’t you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? 10 Don’t you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you I do not speak on my own authority. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work. 11 Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; or at least believe on the evidence of the works themselves.
---Anyone Who has Seen Me has Seen the Father---
John 14:9 '...Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father.'
John 14 Verse 9 is taken literally to proclaim Jesus is a God.
John 10:36 'what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world? Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, ‘I am God’s Son’?'
Jesus explicitly states he is God's Son. But at John 14 Verse 9 Jesus is implicitly stating he is a God.
I have what Jesus explicitly stated. I will go with what Jesus explicitly stated.
NOTE: I cannot fully refute John 14:9 because of discrepancies.
---First Part of John 14:10---
First Part of John 14:10 'Don’t you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me?...'
It is impossible for the Father and Jesus to be in one another. So, John 14 Verse 10 is a metaphor.
Metaphor - a thing regarded as representative or symbolic of something else, especially something abstract.
Keep on reading John 14:10 which describes this metaphor.
---Second Part of John 14:10---
Second Part of John 14:10 '...The words I say to you I do not speak on my own authority. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work.'
The words that Jesus speaks are not from him. It is from the the Holy Spirit that resides in Jesus. Jesus is yielding to the Father, the I Am who I Am.
The prophets from the Old Testament were yeilding to God, the I Am who I Am.
---Jeremiah 20:8 thru 9---
8 Whenever I speak, I cry out proclaiming violence and destruction. So the word of the Lord has brought me insult and reproach all day long.
9 But if I say, “I will not mention his word or speak anymore in his name,” his word is in my heart like a fire, a fire shut up in my bones. I am weary of holding it in; indeed, I cannot.
Looking at just Jeremiah 20:9 again.
If Jeremiah the prophet holds back the Holy Spirit or God inside of him, God's words are in Jeremiah's heart like a fire, a fire in Jeremiah's bones. And Jeremiah will become weary if he holds back.
The Holy Spirit is a physical fire. This is what it feels like. And a prophet cannot hold back what is coming out of his mouth.
Looking back at John 14:10 '...The words I say to you I do not speak on my own authority. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work.'
Jesus has the Holy Spirit inside of him. The same Holy Spirit inside of Jeremiah and all the other prophets.
So not only was Jesus performing miracles and healing people with the Holy Spirit, Jesus was yeilding to God, the I Am who I Am and speaking God's words.
Jesus is the Son of God. He states this explicitly at John 10:36.
---The Name Given to Moses---
The I Am who I Am or I Am is the name given to Moses.
Exodus 3:14 God said to Moses, “I am who I am.[a] This is what you are to say to the Israelites: ‘I am has sent me to you.’”
[a] or I Will Be what I Will Be
Question: What if Jesus is the I Am?
Answer: See the Section in this Post: Before Abraham was born, I am!
John 14:11 is explained in my analysis of John 14:10
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2018.04.05 10:38 SonsOfKorah Healing scriptures

HEALING AND WHOLENESS FOR PHYSICAL SICKNESS AND DISEASE
Exodus 15:25,26
So he cried out to the LORD, and the LORD showed him a tree. When he cast it into the waters, the waters were made sweet. There He made a statute and an ordinance for them, and there He tested them, and said, “If you diligently heed the voice of the LORD your God and do what is right in His sight, give ear to His commandments and keep all His statutes, I will put none of the diseases on you which I have brought on the Egyptians. For I am the LORD who heals you.
Exodus 23:25
So you shall serve the LORD your God, and He will bless your bread and your water. And I will take sickness away from the midst of you.
Psalm 23:4
Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil; For You are with me; Your rod and Your staff, they comfort me.
Psalm 30:2
O LORD my God, I cried out to You, and You healed me.
Psalm 103:2,3,5
Bless the LORD, O my soul, And forget not all His benefits: Who forgives all your iniquities, Who heals all your diseases, Who satisfies your mouth with good things, So that your youth is renewed like the eagle’s.
Psalm 107:20
He sent His word and healed them, And delivered them from their destructions.
Proverbs 3:7,8
Do not be wise in your own eyes; fear the LORD and shun evil. This will bring health to your body and nourishment to your bones. (NIV)
Proverbs 4:20-22
My son, give attention to my words; Incline your ear to my sayings. Do not let them depart from your eyes; Keep them in the midst of your heart; For they are life to those who find them, And health to all their flesh.
Proverbs 16:24
Kind words are like honey–sweet to the soul and healthy for the body. (NLT)
Isaiah 53:5
But He was wounded for our transgressions, He was bruised for our iniquities; The chastisement for our peace was upon Him, And by His stripes we are healed.
Isaiah 58:8
Then your light shall break forth like the morning, Your healing shall spring forth speedily, And your righteousness shall go before you; The glory of the LORD shall be your rear guard.
Jeremiah 17:14
Heal me, O LORD, and I shall be healed; Save me, and I shall be saved, For You are my praise.
Malachi 4:2
But for you who fear my name, the Sun of Righteousness will rise with healing in his wings. And you will go free, leaping with joy like calves let out to pasture. (NLT)
Matthew 4:23,24
And Jesus went about all Galilee, teaching in their synagogues, preaching the gospel of the kingdom, and healing all kinds of sickness and all kinds of disease among the people. Then His fame went throughout all Syria; and they brought to Him all sick people who were afflicted with various diseases and torments, and those who were demon-possessed, epileptics, and paralytics; and He healed them.
Matthew 8:1-3
When He had come down from the mountain, great multitudes followed Him. And behold, a leper came and worshiped Him, saying, “Lord, if You are willing, You can make me clean.” Then Jesus put out His hand and touched him, saying, “I am willing; be cleansed.” Immediately his leprosy was cleansed.
Matthew 8:5-13
Now when Jesus had entered Capernaum, a centurion came to Him, pleading with Him, saying, “Lord, my servant is lying at home paralyzed, dreadfully tormented.” And Jesus said to him, “I will come and heal him.” The centurion answered and said, “Lord, I am not worthy that You should come under my roof. But only speak a word, and my servant will be healed. For I also am a man under authority, having soldiers under me. And I say to this one, “Go,’ and he goes; and to another, “Come,’ and he comes; and to my servant, “Do this,’ and he does it.” When Jesus heard it, He marveled, and said to those who followed, “Assuredly, I say to you, I have not found such great faith, not even in Israel! And I say to you that many will come from east and west, and sit down with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven. But the sons of the kingdom will be cast out into outer darkness. There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.” Then Jesus said to the centurion, “Go your way; and as you have believed, so let it be done for you.” And his servant was healed that same hour.
Matthew 8:14,15
Now when Jesus had come into Peter’s house, He saw his wife’s mother lying sick with a fever. So He touched her hand, and the fever left her. And she arose and served them.
Matthew 8:16,17
When evening had come, they brought to Him many who were demon-possessed. And He cast out the spirits with a word, and healed all who were sick, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Isaiah the prophet, saying: “He Himself took our infirmities And bore our sicknesses.”
Matthew 9:35
Then Jesus went about all the cities and villages, teaching in their synagogues, preaching the gospel of the kingdom, and healing every sickness and every disease among the people.
Matthew 12:15
But when Jesus knew it, He withdrew from there. And great multitudes followed Him, and He healed them all.
Matthew 14:14
And when Jesus went out He saw a great multitude; and He was moved with compassion for them, and healed their sick.
Matthew 15:28
Then Jesus answered and said to her, “O woman, great is your faith! Let it be to you as you desire.” And her daughter was healed from that very hour.
Matthew 15:30
Then great multitudes came to Him, having with them the lame, blind, mute, maimed, and many others; and they laid them down at Jesus’ feet, and He healed them.
Mark 5:25-34
Now a certain woman had a flow of blood for twelve years, and had suffered many things from many physicians. She had spent all that she had and was no better, but rather grew worse. When she heard about Jesus, she came behind Him in the crowd and touched His garment. For she said, “If only I may touch His clothes, I shall be made well.” Immediately the fountain of her blood was dried up, and she felt in her body that she was healed of the affliction. And Jesus, immediately knowing in Himself that power had gone out of Him, turned around in the crowd and said, “Who touched My clothes?” 31But His disciples said to Him, “You see the multitude thronging You, and You say, “Who touched Me?”‘ And He looked around to see her who had done this thing. But the woman, fearing and trembling, knowing what had happened to her, came and fell down before Him and told Him the whole truth. And He said to her, “Daughter, your faith has made you well. Go in peace, and be healed of your affliction.”
Mark 10:46-52
Now they came to Jericho. As He went out of Jericho with His disciples and a great multitude, blind Bartimaeus, the son of Timaeus, sat by the road begging. And when he heard that it was Jesus of Nazareth, he began to cry out and say, “Jesus, Son of David, have mercy on me!” Then many warned him to be quiet; but he cried out all the more, “Son of David, have mercy on me!” So Jesus stood still and commanded him to be called. Then they called the blind man, saying to him, “Be of good cheer. Rise, He is calling you.” And throwing aside his garment, he rose and came to Jesus. So Jesus answered and said to him, “What do you want Me to do for you?” The blind man said to Him, “Rabboni, that I may receive my sight.” Then Jesus said to him, “Go your way; your faith has made you well.” And immediately he received his sight and followed Jesus on the road.
Luke 4:18
“The Spirit of the LORD is upon Me, Because He has anointed Me To preach the gospel to the poor; He has sent Me to heal the brokenhearted, To proclaim liberty to the captives And recovery of sight to the blind, To set at liberty those who are oppressed;
Luke 4:38-40
Now He arose from the synagogue and entered Simon’s house. But Simon’s wife’s mother was sick with a high fever, and they made request of Him concerning her. So He stood over her and rebuked the fever, and it left her. And immediately she arose and served them. When the sun was setting, all those who had any that were sick with various diseases brought them to Him; and He laid His hands on every one of them and healed them.
Luke 6:19
And the whole multitude sought to touch Him, for power went out from Him and healed them all.
Luke 8:41-55
And behold, there came a man named Jairus, and he was a ruler of the synagogue. And he fell down at Jesus’ feet and begged Him to come to his house, for he had an only daughter about twelve years of age, and she was dying. But as He went, the multitudes thronged Him. Now a woman, having a flow of blood for twelve years, who had spent all her livelihood on physicians and could not be healed by any, came from behind and touched the border of His garment. And immediately her flow of blood stopped. And Jesus said, “Who touched Me?” When all denied it, Peter and those with him said, “Master, the multitudes throng and press You, and You say, “Who touched Me?”‘ But Jesus said, “Somebody touched Me, for I perceived power going out from Me.” Now when the woman saw that she was not hidden, she came trembling; and falling down before Him, she declared to Him in the presence of all the people the reason she had touched Him and how she was healed immediately. And He said to her, “Daughter, be of good cheer; your faith has made you well. Go in peace.” While He was still speaking, someone came from the ruler of the synagogue’s house, saying to him, “Your daughter is dead. Do not trouble the Teacher.” But when Jesus heard it, He answered him, saying, “Do not be afraid; only believe, and she will be made well.” When He came into the house, He permitted no one to go in except Peter, James, and John, and the father and mother of the girl. Now all wept and mourned for her; but He said, “Do not weep; she is not dead, but sleeping.” And they ridiculed Him, knowing that she was dead. But He put them all outside, took her by the hand and called, saying, “Little girl, arise.” Then her spirit returned, and she arose immediately. And He commanded that she be given something to eat.
Luke 9:1,2
Then He called His twelve disciples together and gave them power and authority over all demons, and to cure diseases. He sent them to preach the kingdom of God and to heal the sick.
Luke 9:11
But when the multitudes knew it, they followed Him; and He received them and spoke to them about the kingdom of God, and healed those who had need of healing.
John 5:1-9
After this there was a feast of the Jews, and Jesus went up to Jerusalem. Now there is in Jerusalem by the Sheep Gate a pool, which is called in Hebrew, Bethesda, having five porches. In these lay a great multitude of sick people, blind, lame, paralyzed, waiting for the moving of the water. For an angel went down at a certain time into the pool and stirred up the water; then whoever stepped in first, after the stirring of the water, was made well of whatever disease he had. Now a certain man was there who had an infirmity thirty-eight years. When Jesus saw him lying there, and knew that he already had been in that condition a long time, He said to him, “Do you want to be made well?” The sick man answered Him, “Sir, I have no man to put me into the pool when the water is stirred up; but while I am coming, another steps down before me.” Jesus said to him, “Rise, take up your bed and walk.” And immediately the man was made well, took up his bed, and walked. And that day was the Sabbath.
Acts 3:2-8
And a certain man lame from his mother’s womb was carried, whom they laid daily at the gate of the temple which is called Beautiful, to ask alms from those who entered the temple; who, seeing Peter and John about to go into the temple, asked for alms. And fixing his eyes on him, with John, Peter said, “Look at us.” So he gave them his attention, expecting to receive something from them. Then Peter said, “Silver and gold I do not have, but what I do have I give you: In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, rise up and walk.” And he took him by the right hand and lifted him up, and immediately his feet and ankle bones received strength. So he, leaping up, stood and walked and entered the temple with them–walking, leaping, and praising God.
Acts 5:16
Also a multitude gathered from the surrounding cities to Jerusalem, bringing sick people and those who were tormented by unclean spirits, and they were all healed.
Acts 14:8-10
And in Lystra a certain man without strength in his feet was sitting, a cripple from his mother’s womb, who had never walked. This man heard Paul speaking. Paul, observing him intently and seeing that he had faith to be healed, said with a loud voice, “Stand up straight on your feet!” And he leaped and walked.
Acts 19:11,12
Now God worked unusual miracles by the hands of Paul, so that even handkerchiefs or aprons were brought from his body to the sick, and the diseases left them and the evil spirits went out of them.
II Corinthians 4:7-10
But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellence of the power may be of God and not of us. We are hard-pressed on every side, yet not crushed; we are perplexed, but not in despair; persecuted, but not forsaken; struck down, but not destroyed–always carrying about in the body the dying of the Lord Jesus, that the life of Jesus also may be manifested in our body.
I Thessalonians 5:23
And may the God of peace Himself sanctify you through and through [separate you from profane things, make you pure and wholly consecrated to God]; and may your spirit and soul and body be preserved sound and complete [and found] blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ (the Messiah). (AMP)
James 5:14-16
Is anyone among you sick? Let him call for the elders of the church, and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord. And the prayer of faith will save the sick, and the Lord will raise him up. And if he has committed sins, he will be forgiven. Confess your trespasses to one another, and pray for one another, that you may be healed. The effective, fervent prayer of a righteous man avails much.
I Peter 2:24
Who Himself bore our sins in His own body on the tree, that we, having died to sins, might live for righteousness–by whose stripes you were healed.
III John 2
Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper and be in health, even as thy soul prospereth. (KJV)
HEALING AND WHOLENESS FOR SPIRITUAL AND EMOTIONAL NEEDS
Psalm 103:2,3,5
Bless the LORD, O my soul, And forget not all His benefits: Who forgives all your iniquities, Who heals all your diseases, Who satisfies your mouth with good things, So that your youth is renewed like the eagle’s
Psalm 147:3
He heals the brokenhearted And binds up their wounds.
Proverbs 12:18
Reckless words pierce like a sword, but the tongue of the wise brings healing. (NIV)
Proverbs 16:24
Kind words are like honey–sweet to the soul and healthy for the body. (NLT)
Proverbs 18:21
Death and life are in the power of the tongue, And those who love it will eat its fruit.
Isaiah 53:5
But He was wounded for our transgressions, He was bruised for our iniquities; The chastisement for our peace was upon Him, And by His stripes we are healed.
Isaiah 58:8
Then your light shall break forth like the morning, Your healing shall spring forth speedily, And your righteousness shall go before you; The glory of the LORD shall be your rear guard.
Isaiah 61:1
“The Spirit of the Lord GOD is upon Me, Because the LORD has anointed Me To preach good tidings to the poor; He has sent Me to heal the brokenhearted, To proclaim liberty to the captives, And the opening of the prison to those who are bound;
Jeremiah 17:14
Heal me, O LORD, and I shall be healed; Save me, and I shall be saved, For You are my praise.
Luke 4:18
“The Spirit of the LORD is upon Me, Because He has anointed Me To preach the gospel to the poor; He has sent Me to heal the brokenhearted, To proclaim liberty to the captives And recovery of sight to the blind, To set at liberty those who are oppressed;
John 3:16,17
For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.
John 4:7-15
A woman of Samaria came to draw water. Jesus said to her, “Give Me a drink.” For His disciples had gone away into the city to buy food. Then the woman of Samaria said to Him, “How is it that You, being a Jew, ask a drink from me, a Samaritan woman?” For Jews have no dealings with Samaritans. Jesus answered and said to her, “If you knew the gift of God, and who it is who says to you, “Give Me a drink,’ you would have asked Him, and He would have given you living water.” The woman said to Him, “Sir, You have nothing to draw with, and the well is deep. Where then do You get that living water? Are You greater than our father Jacob, who gave us the well, and drank from it himself, as well as his sons and his livestock?” Jesus answered and said to her, “Whoever drinks of this water will thirst again, but whoever drinks of the water that I shall give him will never thirst. But the water that I shall give him will become in him a fountain of water springing up into everlasting life.” The woman said to Him, “Sir, give me this water, that I may not thirst, nor come here to draw.”
John 11:25,26
Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in Me, though he may die, he shall live. And whoever lives and believes in Me shall never die. Do you believe this?”
II Corinthians 5:17
Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new.
I Thessalonians 5:23
And may the God of peace Himself sanctify you through and through [separate you from profane things, make you pure and wholly consecrated to God]; and may your spirit and soul and body be preserved sound and complete [and found] blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ (the Messiah). (AMP)
I Peter 2:24
Who Himself bore our sins in His own body on the tree, that we, having died to sins, might live for righteousness–by whose stripes you were healed.
HEALING AND WHOLENESS FOR FINANCIAL DISTRESS AND LACK
Genesis 8:22
While the earth remains, seedtime and harvest, cold and heat, winter and summer, and day and night shall not cease.
Psalm 103:2,3,5
Bless the LORD, O my soul, And forget not all His benefits: Who forgives all your iniquities, Who heals all your diseases, Who satisfies your mouth with good things, So that your youth is renewed like the eagle’s
Proverbs 3:9,10
Honor the LORD with your wealth, with the firstfruits of all your crops; then your barns will be filled to overflowing, and your vats will brim over with new wine. (NIV)
Isaiah 61:1
“The Spirit of the Lord GOD is upon Me, Because the LORD has anointed Me To preach good tidings to the poor; He has sent Me to heal the brokenhearted, To proclaim liberty to the captives, And the opening of the prison to those who are bound;
Jeremiah 17:14
Heal me, O LORD, and I shall be healed; Save me, and I shall be saved, For You are my praise.
Malachi 3:10,11
Bring all the tithes into the storehouse, That there may be food in My house, And try Me now in this,” Says the LORD of hosts, “If I will not open for you the windows of heaven And pour out for you such blessing That there will not be room enough to receive it.And I will rebuke the devourer for your sakes, So that he will not destroy the fruit of your ground, Nor shall the vine fail to bear fruit for you in the field,” Says the LORD of hosts;
Luke 4:18
“The Spirit of the LORD is upon Me, Because He has anointed Me To preach the gospel to the poor; He has sent Me to heal the brokenhearted, To proclaim liberty to the captives And recovery of sight to the blind, To set at liberty those who are oppressed;
Luke 6:38
If you give, you will receive. Your gift will return to you in full measure, pressed down, shaken together to make room for more, and running over. Whatever measure you use in giving–large or small–it will be used to measure what is given back to you. (NLT)
Philippians 4:19
And my God shall supply all your need according to His riches in glory by Christ Jesus.
III John 2
Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper and be in health, even as thy soul prospereth. (KJV)
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2018.02.24 08:19 Break-The-Walls The Revealing of "the Man of Lawlessness"

A good indicator as to the nearness of the Second Coming is not necessarily studying world events, but more importantly witnessing certain developments within Christendom. These things must first take place as foretold in the Scriptures. (Matt. 26:54) Having convinced ourselves that we are nothing but wonderful in Jehovah's eyes, and shrugging off his condemnatory prophecies as applying particularly to the churches of Christianity, we have failed to comprehend our true situation before Jehovah. (Amos 3:2; 4:12) Jehovah's Witnesses have been led astray by being told that they have "peace, when there is no peace." (Jer. 8:11; Ezek. 13:10) For that reason it will be just as Jesus warned, we will be caught by surprise when he arrives to settle accounts with his slaves at a time we do not think to be it. (Luke 12:40; Rev. 3:3) Paul wrote for our benefit—those living in the last days—that Jesus will not come unless there are first certain developments taking place, and this in connection with an apostasy and revealing, or identifying, of "the man of lawlessness."
Paul says that the man of lawlessness, in his ambition to be "someone or something considered to be extremely valuable or important" (Webster's definition of "god"), has elevated himself over those who are "called 'god' or an object of reverence." (John 10:34-36)
In agreement with what Paul foretold, among Jehovah's Witnesses today there is actually a small group of men who have partially fulfilled this prophecy in great detail. It is the Governing Body of the Watchtower Society. The members of this elite group of men assert that there was such a governing body arrangement over first century Christians, and therefore justifies their exalted position within Jehovah's Witnesses. A recent Watchtower article states:
"The apostles and the elders of the Jerusalem congregation acted as a governing body. Christ used this instrument to lead the entire group of his anointed 'brothers' on earth. (Heb. 2:11; Acts 16:4, 5) In this time of the end, Christ has committed 'all his belongings'—all the earthly interests of the Kingdom—to his 'faithful and discreet slave' and its representative Governing Body, a group of anointed Christian men." —September 15, 2010 Study Watchtower.
Contrary to their claim, though, there is no scriptural evidence to support the idea of a governing body in Jerusalem that Christ used to "lead the entire group of his anointed brothers on earth." The apostle Paul certainly did not recognize any "special leaders" (CEV) exercising authority over him or other fellow believers; nor, as he says, did he submit to any such ones. And neither did The Holy Spirit acknowledge such an entity when he wrote directly to the seven congregations in Asia Minor. (Gal. 1:15-19; 2:47; Rev. 1:11, 19,20) In fact, the very idea of a governing body goes contrary to what Jesus told his disciples on his last night with them, when once again they argued as to who the greatest among them was:
"The kings of the Gentiles dominate them, and those who have authority over them are called 'Benefactors.' But it must not be like that among you. On the contrary, whoever is greatest among you must become like the youngest, and whoever leads, like the one serving." —Luke 22:24-26, HCSB; Matt. 20:25,26.
In imitation of the kings of the nations, and in connection with a secular corporation, the governing body members have elevated themselves within Jehovah's Witnesses, and "dominate them." They have publicly shown themselves to be a "god" by the authority they have claimed for themselves, and by presenting their teachings as equal in authority to God's Word, considering their publications as official as the Bible itself. (Matt. 23:2-4) For example, in one Watchtower article elders were told:
"If the Bible and the publications of the 'faithful and discreet slave' do not clearly outline a course, the elders should not impose their personal likes and dislikes, as if these were rules to be followed by the others." —w75 8/1 p. 474 par. 12, Elders Presiding in a Fine Way.
Another article addressing congregation elders admonished:
"What is your attitude toward directives from 'the faithful and discreet slave'? Loyalty should move you to be 'ready to obey.' (Jas. 3:17) Always try to capture the spirit of information published by the 'slave' class. Then convey this to the congregation. The brothers need your loyal example as you cooperate with the rest of the body of elders." (w81 12/1 pp. 11-14 “Kingdom Loyalty”—What Does It Mean to You?)
You may have noticed in your congregation that the visiting Circuit Overseer will frequently refer to the Society's publications as the authority for establishing a scriptural matter, or "proving" one of their many traditions. This, of course, is in an effort to instill trust and confidence on the part of God's people in the self-proclaimed "faithful and discreet slave," and encourage loyally following their leadership. You can see many of the elders imitating this.
They also teach that we cannot enjoy a relationship with God apart from the governing body:
"We cannot hope to acquire a good relationship with Jehovah if we ignore those whom Jesus has appointed to care for his belongings. Without the assistance of 'the faithful and discreet slave,' we would neither understand the full import of what we read in God’s Word nor know how to apply it. (Matt. 24:45-47)".
The same Watchtower says further:
"The anointed and their other sheep companions recognize that by following the lead of the modern-day Governing Body, they are in fact following their Leader, Christ." (September 15, 2010 Study Watchtower) Another article declared: “It is vital that we. . . respond to the directions of the 'slave' as we would to the voice of God, because it is His provision." —Watchtower 6/15/1957, p. 370, JEHOVAH’S CHANNEL OF COMMUNICATION.
Compare the above Watchtower statements with Jesus' own words:
"I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." (John 14:6)
Also note the apostle Peter's statement regarding the uniqueness of Jesus' position:
"There is no salvation in anyone else, for there is not another name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must get saved." (Acts 4:12)
Jehovah's Witnesses should be obeying God's command:
"Don't put your trust in human leaders. Don't trust in people. They can't save you." —Psalms 146:3, NIRV.
Aaron, as high priest, was called by God and blessed with a prominent and prestigious position within the nation of Israel, as did his sister Miriam as prophetess. (Heb. 5:4,5; Ex. 15:20) Yet both of them coveted the superior appointment of their brother Moses, for God had "entrusted [Moses] with all his house," and spoke with him "face to face." (Ex. 33:11; Num. 7:89; 12:7,8; Heb. 3:5,6) Therefore Aaron and Miriam started to complain:
"Is it just by Moses alone that Jehovah has spoken? Is it not by us also that he has spoken?"
The account goes on to say:
"And Jehovah was listening," and "Jehovah's anger got to be hot against them. . . and, look! Miriam was struck with leprosy as white as snow." (Num. 12:1,2, 9,10)
Has the governing body not become guilty of the same aspiration as that of Aaron and Miriam? Are they not in effect saying, as expressed in the above Watchtower quotes, "is it by Jesus alone that Jehovah has spoken? Is it not by us also that he has spoken?"
In coveting the glory and the authority that has been given only to Jesus—the greater Moses—the governing body members have also become guilty of imitating the ambitions of the infamous rebels Korah, Dathan and his brother Abiram. By wanting to elevate themselves to the position of Moses as leader over Jehovah's Witnesses, those three men, along with their 250 followers, became guilty of rebelling against Jehovah. By the awesome display of power that Jehovah used in executing them and everything that belonged to them he proved beyond any doubt to all onlookers that those rebels had "treated Jehovah disrespectfully." Yes, it was not only Moses that they had opposed, but also Jehovah himself.—Num. 16:12-14, 30-35; Jude 11; Matt. 23:10; 1 Peter 3:22.
The modern-day Korah·Dathan·Abiram claims to be God's channel of communication in our day. Thus in one Watchtower it was stated:
"God spoke to his people through Moses and other prophets. Then, Jehovah spoke to them through his Son, Jesus Christ. (Hebrews 1:1, 2)
Today, we have God’s complete inspired Word, the Holy Bible. We also have 'the faithful and discreet slave,' appointed by Jesus to provide spiritual 'food at the proper time.' (Matthew 24:45-47) Thus, God is still speaking. But are we listening?" (w98 7/15 p. 12 par. 15 Beware of a Lack of Faith)
The above Watchtower appropriately notes, "today, we have God's complete inspired Word." It is within the pages of that inspired Word that we find Jesus' teachings preserved for our benefit, by means of which God is speaking to us. There is no need for anyone else to replace Jesus, for he himself promised his disciples: "And, look! I am with you all the days until the conclusion of the system of things."—Matthew 28:20.
We are commanded not to add anything to God's Word, nor take away from it. (Deut. 4:2; 12:32; Prov. 30:6; Rev. 22:18,19) In fact, it is this food—Jesus' teachings—that God's appointed servants ought to be dispensing. (John 6:35; Luke 12:42) Rather than any governing body, Jehovah has provided "the spirit of the truth, which the world cannot receive," which not only teaches his people but also unites them. That has not changed since the first century! This truth never changes. (John 14:16,17, 26) The man of lawlessness, whose "presence is according to the operation of Satan," has replaced Jesus as head in the congregation. He has also blasphemously replaced The Holy Spirit within God's household. Therefore, he does not have "the spirit of the truth," and neither can he receive it. To him it is not about truth, but about authority and domination! The apostle Paul explains, "because they did not accept the love of the truth," but "took pleasure in unrighteousness," God allows "an operation of error go to them, that they may get to believing the lie." (2 Thess. 2:10-12) This explains why many of their predictions have failed to materialize, and the reason certain "truths" taught at one time are now no longer valid. That is why the apostle John wrote:
"Beloved ones, do not believe every inspired expression, but test the inspired expressions to see whether they originate with God, because many false prophets have gone forth into the world." —1 John 4:1.
The apostle Paul says that the existence of the man of lawlessness, and his identity, would be revealed in God's due time. Jesus also said:
"For all that is secret will eventually be brought into the open, and everything that is concealed will be brought to light and made known to all." (Luke 8:17, NLT)
Thanks to the internet, the ambitions and errors of our leaders have now become widely known. They have been humiliated yet it has not humbled them. Neither have they felt embarrassed. On the contrary! Their insistence on our absolute trust and obedience has become even more pronounced. It is as Jeremiah wrote:
"Prophets and priests and everyone in between twist words and doctor truth. My people are broken—shattered!—and they put on Band-Aids, Saying, 'It's not so bad. You'll be just fine.' But things are not 'just fine'! Do you suppose they are embarrassed over this outrage? No, they have no shame. They don't even know how to blush. There's no hope for them. They've hit bottom and there's no getting up. As far as I'm concerned, they're finished."—Jer. 6:13-15, The Message.
They have not blushed in connection with their bold promise as expressed back in a 1969 Awake! magazine:
"If you are a young person, you also need to face the fact that you will never grow old in this present system of things. Why not? Because all the evidence in fulfillment of Bible prophecy indicates that this corrupt system is due to end in a few years. Of the generation that observed the beginning of the 'last days' in 1914, Jesus foretold: 'This generation will by no means pass away until all these things occur.' Therefore, as a young person, you will never fulfill any career that this system offers." (Awake! 1969 May 22 p.15)
Ironically, many of the ones especially trusting in the Society's leadership and their promises are now suffering the most, finding themselves destitute. Contrary to their expectations, they have grown old in this present system of things and are now working at menial jobs way past their retirement age, not having prepared financially for their old age. But do not allow the failed promises of the self-professed "faithful slave" throw you off your spiritual balance! You can continue to have full confidence in Jehovah's promises, for they will never fail to come true, nor lead to disappointment, although appearing to delay.—Habakkuk 2:2-4.
The Governing Body members, in their effort to hold on to their lofty position within God's temple, have hired powerful lawyers whom they trust and who have become their advisers rather than God, even when their advice goes contrary to what the Scriptures teach. (John 13:34,35) Under the direction of these lawyers they have dealt harshly with many of Jesus' sheep. It is not unusual to have one of the Society's lawyers represent in a court of law a prominent elder who has been charged with child molestation, or sexual harassment of a sister. Thus they protect their own interest and wealth from lawsuits, and attempt to hide wrongdoing, and in the process deny justice to the innocent ones, although they know full well Jehovah's view of such matters:
"Woe to those enacting crooked statutes and writing oppressive laws to keep the poor from getting a fair trial and to deprive the afflicted among my people of justice, so that widows can be their spoil and they can plunder the fatherless. What will you do on the day of punishment when devastation comes from far away? Who will you run to for help? Where will you leave your wealth?"—Isaiah 10:1-3, HCSB.
Anyone not submitting to their authority is expelled from the congregation as being apostate. (Matt. 24:22,24,31; Col. 3:12) They are Diotrephes personified, of whom the apostle John wrote in his short third letter:
"I wrote something to the congregation, but Diotrephes, who likes to have the first place among them, does not receive anything from us with respect. That is why, if I come, I will call to remembrance his works which he goes on doing, chattering about us with wicked words. Also, not being content with these things, neither does he himself receive the brothers with respect, and those who are wanting to receive them he tries to hinder and to throw out of the congregation." (3 John 9,10) Do they imagine that God approves of their action, and that there will be no accountability? —Romans 14:12; Hebrews 4:13.
If we seem surprised, even shocked, by all this development within God's organization we should remember Paul's words:
"Do you not remember that, while I was yet with you, I used to tell you these things?" (vs. 5) Yes, these things must take place in order for the Scriptures to be fulfilled. (Luke 21:22)
This wicked element was already evident in Paul's day, in the form of the "superfine apostles" who had elevated themselves over their fellow believers and had started to rule over them. But as Paul said, any such authority they felt they had was not from Jehovah. (1 Cor. 4:8-10) In fact, their presence and position of authority within God's temple is "according to the operation of Satan," and reflects his own ambitions. —2 Thess. 2:9.
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Bible > 1 John > Chapter 3 > Verse 11 ◄ 1 John 3:11 ► Verse (Click for Chapter) New International Version For this is the message you heard from the beginning: We should love one another.
New Living Translation This is the message you have heard from the beginning: We should love one another.
English Standard Version For this is the message that you have heard from the beginning, that we should love one another.
Berean Study Bible This is the message you have heard from the beginning: We should love one another.
Berean Literal Bible For this is the message that you have heard from the beginning, that we should love one another,
New American Standard Bible For this is the message which you have heard from the beginning, that we should love one another;
King James Bible For this is the message that ye heard from the beginning, that we should love one another.
Holman Christian Standard Bible For this is the message you have heard from the beginning: We should love one another,
International Standard Version This is the message that you have heard from the beginning: We should love one another.
NET Bible For this is the gospel message that you have heard from the beginning: that we should love one another,
New Heart English Bible For this is the message which you heard from the beginning, that we should love one another;
Aramaic Bible in Plain English For this is the commandment that you have heard from the first: “You shall love one another”,
GOD'S WORD® Translation The message that you have heard from the beginning is to love each other.
New American Standard 1977 For this is the message which you have heard from the beginning, that we should love one another;
Jubilee Bible 2000 For this is the message that ye heard from the beginning, That we should love one another.
King James 2000 Bible For this is the message that you heard from the beginning, that we should love one another.
American King James Version For this is the message that you heard from the beginning, that we should love one another.
American Standard Version For this is the message which ye heard from the beginning, that we should love one another:
Douay-Rheims Bible For this is the declaration, which you have heard from the beginning, that you should love one another.
Darby Bible Translation For this is the message which ye have heard from the beginning, that we should love one another:
English Revised Version For this is the message which ye heard from the beginning, that we should love one another:
Webster's Bible Translation For this is the message that ye have heard from the beginning, that we should love one another.
Weymouth New Testament For this is the Message you have heard from the beginning--that we are to love one another.
World English Bible For this is the message which you heard from the beginning, that we should love one another;
Young's Literal Translation because this is the message that ye did hear from the beginning, that we may love one another, Commentary Matthew Henry Commentary 3:11-15 We should love the Lord Jesus, value his love, and therefore love all our brethren in Christ. This love is the special fruit of our faith, and a certain sign of our being born again. But none who rightly know the heart of man, can wonder at the contempt and enmity of ungodly people against the children of God. We know that we are passed from death to life: we may know it by the evidences of our faith in Christ, of which love to our brethren is one. It is not zeal for a party in the common religion, or affection for those who are of the same name and sentiments with ourselves. The life of grace in the heart of a regenerate person, is the beginning and first principle of a life of glory, whereof they must be destitute who hate their brother in their hearts. 1 John 3:11 Commentaries Study Bible Love One Another 10By this the children of God and the children of the devil can be distinguished: Anyone who does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor is anyone who does not love his brother. 11This is the message you have heard from the beginning: We should love one another. 12Do not be like Cain, who belonged to the evil one and murdered his brother. And why did he slay him? Because his own deeds were evil, while those of his brother were righteous.… Berean Study Bible · Download Cross References John 13:4 So He got up from the supper, laid aside His outer garments, and wrapped a towel around His waist.
John 13:34 A new commandment I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so also you must love one another.
John 15:12 This is My commandment, that you love one another as I loved you.
1 John 1:5 And this is the message we have heard from Him and announce to you: God is light, and in Him there is no darkness at all.
1 John 2:7 Beloved, I am not writing you a new commandment, but an old one, which you have had from the beginning. This commandment is the message you have heard.
1 John 4:7 Beloved, let us love one another, because love comes from God. Everyone who loves has been born of God and knows God.
1 John 4:11 Beloved, if God so loved us, we also ought to love one another.
1 John 4:21 And we have this commandment from Him: Whoever loves God must love his brother as well.
2 John 1:5 And now I urge you, dear lady--not as a new commandment to you, but one we have had from the beginning--that we love one another. Treasury of Scripture For this is the message that you heard from the beginning, that we should love one another.
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2015.02.07 14:25 XSLAPPINBABIESX In response to the Pastor looking for honest questions for atheist, here are Bible versus I find problematic and a list of 125 questions.

Questions FROM atheists
Thanks everyone for your kind words
God Condones Slavery
However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way. (Leviticus 25:44-47 NLT)
These are the regulations you must present to Israel. If you buy a Hebrew slave, he may serve for no more than six years. Set him free in the seventh year, and he will owe you nothing for his freedom. If he was single when he became your slave, he shall leave single. But if he was married before he became a slave, then his wife must be freed with him. If his master gave him a wife while he was a slave and they had sons or daughters, then only the man will be free in the seventh year, but his wife and children will still belong to his master. But the slave must declare, 'I love my master, my wife, and my children. I don't want to go free.' If he does this, his master must present him before God. Then his master must take him to the door or doorpost and publicly pierc his ear with an awl. After that, the slave will serve the master for life. When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment. (Exodus 21:1-11 NLT)
When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If,' however, the salve survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. (Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)
Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Seve them sincerely as you would serve Christ. (Ephesians 6:5 NLT)
Christians who are slaves should give their masters full respect so that the name of God and his teaching will not be shamed. If your master is a Christian, that is no excuse for being disrespectful. You should work all the harder because you are helping another believer by your efforts. Teach these truths, Timothy, and encourage everyone everyone to obey them. (1 Timothy 6:1-2 NLT)
Slaves, in reverent fear of God submit yourselves to your masters, not only to those who are good and considerate, but also to those who are harsh. For it is commendable if someone bears up under the pain of unjust suffering because they are conscious of God. But how is it to your credit if you receive a beating for doing wrong and endure it? But if you suffer for doing good and you endure it, this is commendable before God. (1 Peter 2:18-20)
God Condones Rape and Sex Slavery
As you approach a town to attack it, first offer its people terms for peace. If they accept your terms and open the gates to you, then all the people inside will serve you in forced labor. But if they refuse to make peace and prepare to fight, you must attack the town. When the LORD your God hands it over to you, kill every man in the town. But you may keep for yourselves all the women, children, livestock, and other plunder. You may enjoy the spoils of your enemies that the LORD your God has given you. (Deuteronomy 20:10-14)
If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her. (Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NLT)
When you go out to war against your enemies and the LORD, your God, delivers them into your hand, so that you take captives, if you see a comely woman among the captives and become so enamored of her that you wish to have her as wife, you may take her home to your house. But before she may live there, she must shave her head and pare her nails and lay aside her captive's garb. After she has mourned her father and mother for a full month, you may have relations with her, and you shall be her husband and she shall be your wife. However, if later on you lose your liking for her, you shall give her her freedom, if she wishes it; but you shall not sell her or enslave her, since she was married to you under compulsion. (Deuteronomy 21:10-14 NAB)
They must be dividing the spoils they took: there must be a damsel or two for each man, Spoils of dyed cloth as Sisera's spoil, an ornate shawl or two for me in the spoil. (Judges 5:30 NAB)
Lo, a day shall come for the Lord when the spoils shall be divided in your midst. And I will gather all the nations against Jerusalem for battle: the city shall be taken, houses plundered, women ravished; half of the city shall go into exile, but the rest of the people shall not be removed from the city. (Zechariah 14:1-2 NAB)
When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment. (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)
So kill all the boys and all the women who have had intercourse with a man. Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves. (Numbers 31:17-18)
Human Sacrifice
Take your son, your only son – yes, Isaac, whom you love so much – and go to the land of Moriah. Sacrifice him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains, which I will point out to you. (Genesis 22:1-18)
the Lord said "Consecrate to me every first-born that opens the womb among Israelites, both man and beast, for it belongs to me. (Exodus 13:2)
At the LORD's command, a man of God from Judah went to Bethel, and he arrived there just as Jeroboam was approaching the altar to offer a sacrifice. Then at the LORD's command, he shouted, "O altar, altar! This is what the LORD says: A child named Josiah will be born into the dynasty of David. On you he will sacrifice the priests from the pagan shrines who come here to burn incense, and human bones will be burned on you." (1 Kings 13:1-2 NLT)
"At that time the Spirit of the LORD came upon Jephthah, and he went throughout the land of Gilead and Manasseh, including Mizpah in Gilead, and led an army against the Ammonites. And Jephthah made a vow to the LORD. He said, "If you give me victory over the Ammonites, I will give to the LORD the first thing coming out of my house to greet me when I return in triumph. I will sacrifice it as a burnt offering." So Jephthah led his army against the Ammonites, and the LORD gave him victory. He thoroughly defeated the Ammonites from Aroer to an area near Minnith – twenty towns – and as far away as Abel-keramim. Thus Israel subdued the Ammonites. When Jephthah returned home to Mizpah, his daughter – his only child – ran out to meet him, playing on a tambourine and dancing for joy. When he saw her, he tore his clothes in anguish. "My daughter!" he cried out. "My heart is breaking! What a tragedy that you came out to greet me. For I have made a vow to the LORD and cannot take it back." And she said, "Father, you have made a promise to the LORD. You must do to me what you have promised, for the LORD has given you a great victory over your enemies, the Ammonites. But first let me go up and roam in the hills and weep with my friends for two months, because I will die a virgin." "You may go," Jephthah said. And he let her go away for two months. She and her friends went into the hills and wept because she would never have children. When she returned home, her father kept his vow, and she died a virgin. So it has become a custom in Israel for young Israelite women to go away for four days each year to lament the fate of Jephthah's daughter." (Judges 11:29-40 NLT)
God Enforces Capital Punishment For Many Crimes, Some Victimless
  1. Kill People Who Don't Listen to Priests. (Deuteronomy 17:12)
  2. Kill Witches. (Exodus 22:17)
  3. Kill Homosexuals. (Leviticus 20:13)
  4. Kill Fortunetellers. (Leviticus 20:27)
  5. Death for Hitting Dad. (Exodus 21:15)
  6. Death for Cursing Parents. (Proverbs 20:20) (Leviticus 20:9)
  7. Death for Adultery. (Leviticus 20:10)
  8. Death for Fornication. (Leviticus 21:9)
  9. Death to Followers of Other Religions. (Exodus 22:20)
  10. Kill Nonbelievers. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13)
  11. Kill False Prophets. (Zechariah 13:3)
  12. Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God. (Deuteronomy 13:13-19)
  13. Kill Women Who Are Not Virgins On Their Wedding Night. (Deuteronomy 22:20-21)
  14. Kill Followers of Other Religions. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12) (Deuteronomy 17:2-5)
  15. Death for Blasphemy. (Leviticus 24:10-16)
  16. Kill False Prophets. (Deuteronomy 13:1-5) (Deuteronomy 18:20-22)
  17. Infidels and Gays (me and Connor) are worthy of death (Romans 1:24-32)
  18. Kill Anyone who Approaches the Tabernacle. (Numbers 1:48-51)
  19. Kill People for Working on the Sabbath. (Exodus 31:12-15)
  20. Stone stubborn and rebellious children (Deuteronomy 21:18-21)
God Kills for Stupid Reasons
From there Elisha went up to Bethel. While he was on his way, some small boys came out of the city and jeered at him. "Go up baldhead," they shouted, "go up baldhead!" The prophet turned and saw them, and he cursed them in the name of the Lord. Then two shebears came out of the woods and tore forty two of the children to pieces. (2 Kings 2:23-24 NAB)
And he smote of the men of Beth-shemesh, because they had looked into the ark of Jehovah, he smote of the people seventy men, `and' fifty thousand men; and the people mourned, because Jehovah had smitten the people with a great slaughter. And the men of Beth-shemesh said, Who is able to stand before Jehovah, this holy God? and to whom shall he go up from us? (1 Samuel 6:19-20 ASV)
Meanwhile, the LORD instructed one of the group of prophets to say to another man, "Strike me!" But the man refused to strike the prophet. Then the prophet told him, "Because you have not obeyed the voice of the LORD, a lion will kill you as soon as you leave me." And sure enough, when he had gone, a lion attacked and killed him. (1 Kings 20:35-36 NLT)
The ark of God was placed on a new cart and taken away from the house of Abinadab on the hill. Uzzah and Ahio, sons of Abinadab guided the cart, with Ahio walking before it, while David and all the Israelites made merry before the Lord with all their strength, with singing and with citharas, harps, tambourines, sistrums, and cymbals. When they came to the threshing floor of Nodan, Uzzah reached out his hand to the ark of God to steady it, for the oxen were making it tip. But the Lord was angry with Uzzah; God struck him on that spot, and he died there before God. (2 Samuel 6:3-7 NAB)
Now Nadab and Abihu, the sons of Aaron, took their respective firepans, and after putting fire in them, placed incense on it and offered strange fire before the LORD, which He had not commanded them. And fire came out from the presence of the LORD and consumed them, and they died before the LORD. (Leviticus 10:1)
Then Judah said to Onan, "Go in to your brother's wife, and perform your duty as a brother-in-law to her, and raise up offspring for your brother." Onan knew that the offspring would not be his; so when he went in to his brother's wife, he wasted his seed on the ground in order not to give offspring to his brother. But what he did was displeasing in the sight of the LORD; so He took his life also (Genesis 38:8-10)
[After God had hardened Pharoah’s heart, interfering with his free will to let the Hebrews gos] And that night at midnight, the Lord struck down all the firstborn sons in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn son of Pharaoh, who sat on his throne, to the firstborn son of the prisoner in the dungeon… (Exodus 12:29)
When Abigail arrived home, she found that Nabal was throwing a big party and was celebrating like a king. He was very drunk, so she didn’t tell him anything about her meeting with David until dawn the next day. In the morning when Nabal was sober, his wife told him what had happened. As a result he had a stroke, and he lay paralyzed on his bed like a stone. About ten days later, the Lord struck him, and he died. (1 Samuel 25:36-38)
God Kills Children
Make ready to slaughter his sons for the guilt of their fathers; Lest they rise and posses the earth, and fill the breadth of the world with tyrants. (Isaiah 14:21)
This I heard the Lord say to the other men, "Follow him through the city and kill everyone whoe forehead is not marked. Show no mercy; have no pity! Kill them all - old and young, girls and women and little children. But do not touch anyone with the mark. Begin your task right here at the Temple." So they began by killing the seventy leaders. "Defile the Temple!" the Lord commanded. "Fill its courtyards with the bodies of those you kill! Go!" So they went throughout the city and did as they were told. (Ezekial 9:5-7)
And at midnight the Lord killed all the firstborn sons in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn son of Pharaoh, who sat on the throne, to the firstborn son of the captive in the dungeon. Even the firstborn of their livestock were killed. Pharaoh and his officals and all the people of Egypt woke up during the night, and loud wailing was hear throughout the land of Egypt. There was not a single house where someone had not died. (Exodus 12:29-30)
If even then you remain hostile toward me and refure to obey, I will inflict you with seven more disasters for your sins. I will release wild animals that will kill your children and destroy your cattle, so your numbers will dwindle and your roads will be deserted. (Leviticus 26:21-22)
Anyone who is captured will be run through with a sword. Their little children will be dashed to death right before their eyes. Their homes will be sacked and their wives raped by the attacking hordes. For I will stir up the Medes against Babylon, and no amount of silver or gold will buy them off. The attacking armies will shoot down the young people with arrows. They will have no mercy on helpless babies and will show no compassion for the children. (Isaiah 13:15-18)
Cursed be he who does the Lord's work remissly, cursed he who holds back his sword from blood (Jeremiah 48:10)
Misogyny in the Bible
A woman must quietly receive instruction with entire submissiveness. But I do not allow a woman to teach or exercise authority over a man, but to remain quiet. (1 Timothy 2:11-12)
Husbands, in the same way be considerate as you live with your wives, and treat them with respect as the weaker partner and as heirs with you of the gracious gift of life, so that nothing will hinder your prayers. (1 Peter 3:7)
The women are to keep silent in the churches; for they are not permitted to speak, but are to subject themselves, just as the Law also says. (1 Corinthians 14:34)
Wives, be subject to your husbands, as is fitting in the Lord. (Colossians 3:18)
Also the daughter of any priest, if she profanes herself by harlotry, she profanes her father; she shall be burned with fire. (Leviticus 21:9)
But if this charge is true, that the girl was not found a virgin, then they shall bring out the girl to the doorway of her father’s house, and the men of her city shall stone her to death because she has committed an act of folly in Israel, by playing the harlot in her father’s house; thus you shall purge the evil from among you. (Deut. 22:20-21).
And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. (Romans 1:27)
For among them are those who enter into households and captivate weak women weighed down with sins, led on by various impulses, always learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. (2 Timothy 3:7)
So that they may encourage the young women to love their husbands, to love their children, to be sensible, pure, workers at home, kind, being subject to their own husbands, so that the word of God will not be dishonored (Titus 2:4-5)
For a person between the ages of five and twenty, set the value of a male at twenty shekels and of a female at ten shekels. (Leviticus 27:5)
Whenever a woman has her menstrual period, she will be ceremonially unclean for seven days. Anyone who touches her during that time will be unclean until evening. Anything on which the woman lies or sits during the time of her period will be unclean. (Leviticus 15:19-20)
Then Judah said to Onan, "Go in to your brother's wife, and perform your duty as a brother-in-law to her, and raise up offspring for your brother." Onan knew that the offspring would not be his; so when he went in to his brother's wife, he wasted his seed on the ground in order not to give offspring to his brother. But what he did was displeasing in the sight of the LORD; so He took his life also (Genesis 38:8)
Contradictions
  1. Is Christ equal with God? Yes – (John 10:30/ Phil 2:6) No – (John 14:28/ Matt 24:36) Jesus – “Why do you call me good? No one is good except God” (Mark 10:18 & Luke 18:19)
  2. Elijah went up to heaven. (2 Kings 2:11) None but Christ ever ascended into heaven (John - 3:13)
  3. Those that seek me early shall find me. (Proverbs 8:17) Then shall they call upon me but I will not answer; they shall seek me early, but shall not find me. (Proverbs 1:28)
  4. God is not a man, that he should lie. (Numbers 23:19) And if the prophet be deceived when he hath spoken a thing, I theLord have deceived that prophet. (Ezekiel 24:9)
  5. Therefore Michal, the daughter of Saul, had no child unto the day of her death. (II Samuel 6:23) The five sons of Michal, the daughter of Saul. (II Samuel 21:8)
  6. Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works. (Matthew 5:16) Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of them. (Matthew 6:1)
  7. For by grace are ye saved through faith...not of works. (Ephesians 2:8-9) Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only. (James 2:24)
  8. God is not a man, that he should lie: neither the son of man, that he should repent. (Numbers 23:19) And the Lord repented of the evil which he thought to do unto his people. (Exodus 32:14)
  9. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father. (Ezekiel 18:20) I the lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation. (Exodus 20:5)
  10. How blessed is the man who finds wisdom And the man who gains understanding (Proverbs 3:13) Because in much wisdom there is much grief, and increasing knowledge results in increasing pain. (Ecclesiastes 1:18)
  11. The Lord is good to all (Psalm 145:6) I make Peace and create evil. I the Lord do all these things (Isaiah 45:7) For I, the Lord, do not change… (Malachi 3:6)
  12. The Lord is a man of war; the LORD is his name (Exodus 15:3) Now the God of peace be with you all. Amen. (Romans 15:33)
  13. The LORD is compassionate and gracious, Slow to anger and abounding in loving kindness. (Psalm 103:8) Submit to God's royal son, or He will become angry, and you will be destroyed in the midst of all your activities, for His anger flares up in an instant…(Psalm 2:12) When God heard, He was filled with wrath and greatly abhorred Israel (Psalm 78:59) …Uzzah reached out and took hold of the ark of God, because the oxen stumbled. The LORD's anger burned against Uzzah because of his irreverent act; therefore God struck him down, and he died there beside the ark of God.. (2 Samuel 6:6-7)
  14. Whosoever shall say Thou fool, shall be in danger of hellfire. (Matthew 5:22) [Jesus said] Ye fools and blind. (Matthew 23:17) And He [Jesus] said to them, "O foolish men…” (Luke 24:25)
  15. for I am merciful, saith the Lord, and I will not keep anger forever. (Jeremiah 3:12) Ye have kindled a fire in mine anger, which shall burn forever. (Jeremiah 17:4)
  16. God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he an man (James 1:13) And it came to pass after these things, that God did tempt Abraham (Genesis 22:1)
  17. And God saw everything that he made, and behold it was very good (Genesis 1:31) The LORD regretted that he had made human beings on the earth, and his heart was deeply troubled. (Genesis 6:6)
  18. With God all things are possible. (Matthew 29:26) And the Lord was with Judah, and he drove out the inhabitants of the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley, because they had chariots of iron (Judges 1:19)
  19. And through Him everyone who believes is freed from all things, from which you could not be freed through the Law of Moses. (Acts 13:39) But whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin (Mark 3:29)
  20. Jesus curses a fig tree for not having fruit (he should have known they weren’t in season) It withers immediately, the disciples were amazed and comment on it (Matthew 21-19-20) They didn’t noticed it had withered until they saw it the next morning (Mark 11:20)
  21. and He instructed them that they should take nothing for their journey, except a mere staff, no bread, no bag, no money in their belt (Mark 6:8) Do not acquire gold, or silver, or copper for your money belts, or a bag for your journey, or even two coats, or sandals, or a staff... (Matthew 10:10)
Numerical Contradictions
  1. When did Ahaziah son of Jehoram begin his reign in Judah? a. In the eleventh year of Joram the son of Ahab began Ahaziah to reign over Judah. (II Kings 9:29) b. In the twelfth year of Joram the son of Ahab king of Israel did Ahaziah the son of Jehoram king of Judah began to reign." (II Kings 8:25)
  2. How old was Jehoiachin when he began to reign? a. Jehoiachin was eight years old when he began to reign. (II Chronicles 36:9) b. Jehoiachin was eighteen years old when he began to reign. (II Kings 24:8)
  3. How long did Jotham reign in Jerusalem? a. Sixteen years. (II Kings 15:33) b. At least twenty years. (II Kings 15:30)
  4. How old was Ahaziah when he began to reign? a. Twenty two years old. (II Kings 8:26) b. Forty two years old. (II Chroncles 22:2)
  5. How much gold was brought to Solomon from Ophir? a. 420 talents of gold. (I Kings 9:28) b. 450 talents of gold. 2Ch 8:18
  6. How many stalls did Solomon have for his horses? a. 4,000 stalls. (II Chronicles 9:25) b. 40,000 stalls. (I Kings 4:26)
  7. How long did Gad tell David he was to suffer famine? a. Three years. (I Chronicles 21:11-12) b. Seven years. (II Samuel 24:13)
  8. How many horsemen did David take with him from Hadadezer? a. 700 horsemen. (II Samuel 8:4) b. 7,000 horsemen. (I Chroncles 18:4)
  9. How many valiant Israelite men drew the sword? How many in Judah according to Joab? a. 800,000 Israelites and 500,000 from Judah (II Samuel 24:9) b. 1,100,000 Israelites and 472,000 from Judah (1 Chronicles 21:5)
  10. The Temple contained how many baths? a. 40,000 (I Kings 4:26 b. 4,000 (II Chronicles 9:25)
Contradictions in the Gospels
  1. How many generations were there between Abraham to David? fourteen generations (Matthew 1:17) thirteen generations (Matthew 1:2)
  2. Who approached Jesus about the Centurian’s sick slave? The Centurion approached Jesus, asking for help for a sick servant. (Matthew 8:5-7) The Centurion did not approach Jesus. He sent friends and elders of the Jews. (Luke 7:3 & 7:6)
  3. Was the synagogue official’s daughter dying or already dead? Jairus approached Jesus for help, because his daughter was dying. (Luke 8:41-42) He asked for help, saying his daughter was already dead. (Matthew 9:18)
  4. When was Christ crucified? The third hour (Mark 15:25) After the sixth hour (John 19:14)
  5. How many of the thieves crucified with Christ mocked him? Both thieves mocked Christ (Matthew 27:44 & Mark 15:32) Only one theif mocked Christ (Luke 23:39-40)
  6. When did Satan enter Judas? While at the last super (John 13:27) Before the last supper (Luke 22:3)
  7. How many women came to the tomb of Jesus? Only one woman went, Mary Magdalene. (John 20:1) Mary Magdalene and the "other Mary" (Jesus’ mother) went. (Matthew 28:1) Mary Magdalene, Mary mother of James and Salome (Mark 16:1)
  8. How many angels were at the tomb? Two angels (John 20:11) One angel (Mark 16:5)
  9. When did the temple veil tear? Before Jesus died (Luke 23:45-46) After Jesus died (Matthew 27:50-51 & Mark 15:37-38)
  10. How did Judas die? He hanged himself (Mark 27:5) He fell headlong, he burst open in the middle and his intestines gushed out (Acts 1:18)
  11. Signs? Sighing deeply in His spirit, He said, "Why does this generation seek for a sign? Truly I say to you, no sign will be given to this generation." A large crowd followed Him, because they saw the signs which He was performing on those who were sick. (John 6:2)
Miscellaneous
And the king said to her, "What is the matter with you?" And she answered, "This woman said to me, 'Give your son that we may eat him today, and we will eat my son tomorrow.' "So we boiled my son and ate him; and I said to her on the next day, 'Give your son, that we may eat him’, but she has hidden her son (2 Kings 6:28-29)
The siege and terrible distress of the enemy's attack will be so severe that you will eat the flesh of your own sons and daughters, whom the Lord your God has given you. (Deuteronomy 28:53)
[Lot, a righteous man, offers his daughters to a mob of rapists] Look, I have two virgin daughters. Let me bring them out to you, and you can do with them as you wish. But please, leave these men alone, for they are my guests and are under my protection. (Genesis 19:8)
Lot went up from Zoar, and stayed in the mountains, and his two daughters with him; for he was afraid to stay in Zoar; and he stayed in a cave, he and his two daughters. Then the firstborn said to the younger, "Our father is old, and there is not a man on earth to come in to us after the manner of the earth. "Come, let us make our father drink wine, and let us lie with him that we may preserve our family through our father. So they made their father drink wine that night. And the first-born went in and lay with her father, and he was not aware of it when she lay down or when she arose. And it came to be on the next day that the first-born said to the younger, “See, I lay with my father last night. Let us make him drink wine tonight as well, and you go in and lie with him, so that we keep the seed of our father.” So they made their father drink wine that night as well. And the younger arose and lay with him, and he was not aware of it when she lay down or when she arose. Thus both the daughters of Lot became pregnant by their father. (Genesis 19:30-36)
If two men, a man and his countryman, are struggling together, and the wife of one comes near to deliver her husband from the hand of the one who is striking him, and puts out her hand and seizes his genitals, then you shall cut off her hand; you shall not show pity. (Deuteronomy 25:12)
If a man's testicles are crushed or his penis is cut off, he may not be admitted to the assembly of the LORD. (Deuteronomy 23:1)
God Deceives
God is not the author of confusion. - I Corinthians 24:33
Questions
  1. If God is so perfect, then why did he create such an imperfect world and allow suffering?
  2. Some suffering is caused by evil people, but what about suffering caused by disasters?
  3. (Isaiah 45:7) Why did god create evil (KJV) or disastecalamity? (NIV/NAS)?
  4. Why are children born with terminal diseases and die a short and miserable life?
  5. How do these terrible things fit in God’s “divine plan?”
  6. If God’s plan is so perfect why did he have to start over? (purge the earth with the flood)
  7. What good is free will if we are punished for using it?
  8. Would you rather have free will and risk hell, or not have it and be guaranteed heaven?
  9. If sin is the result of free will, and there’s no sin in heaven, is there no free will in heaven?
  10. What will we do for eternity in heaven? Praise God? Sounds boring, not paradise
  11. If God created us, and it’s our nature to sin, why does he condemn us for how he made us?
  12. Why not create us without desire to sin and give us free will to be good how we choose?
  13. Why did God not create humans who could appreciate good without comparing it to evil?
  14. Can God commit an evil act?
  15. Why wouldn’t God give us free will but also give us a nature that doesn’t allow us to do evil?
  16. If we can commit evil, and God can’t commit evil, do we have more free will than God?
  17. Does God do good by choice or because his natures forbids him from acting otherwise?
  18. Can God really be called “good” if he can’t chose evil?
  19. God doesn’t want robots, but does God consider himself a robot because he can’t do evil?
  20. God basically tells us “love me or I’ll torture you forever” how is this “unconditional love?”
  21. How can someone enjoy heaven if they know a loved one is burning in hell?
  22. What is the point of hell? To teach us a lesson?
  23. Punishment is used to correct unwanted behavior, but if it’s eternal what can it teach us?
  24. Why not sentence sinners to a time period in hell based on the degree of their crimes?
  25. Why not just let their souls die and not receive reward in heaven? Why the torture at all?
  26. Why do we have to pay for our sins when we die If Jesus paid for our sins on the cross?
  27. Why did Jesus have to die? Specifically why did he have to be brutally tortured?
  28. If God loves us and is all powerful why not just forgive us? Why does he require blood?
  29. Why was Jesus’ death on the cross the only way our sins could be forgiven?
  30. Could God not come up with another way to forgive us?
  31. If Jesus only died temporarily and knew beforehand that he would spend eternity reigning with God, can his actions really be called a sacrifice?
  32. Is it fair to say that God “gave” us his son if He took him back into heaven to be with him?
  33. If God and Jesus are the same being, did God sacrifice Himself?
  34. Who was Jesus sacrificed to? To God? God sacrificed himself to himself to appease himself?
  35. Jesus/God “saved” us, but if God created hell doesn’t that mean he saved us from himself?
  36. If God is omnipotent, why does he not just show himself to everyone?
  37. If he did reveal himself to us, wouldn’t we still have the free will to reject him if we wanted?
  38. Why won’t Jesus prove his divinity and resurrection by appearing to us as he did to Thomas?
  39. Why does Jesus say, “Bring my enemies and kill them in front of me” in Luke 19:27?
  40. How do we discern God’s plan for us other than just a gut feeling? How can we be sure?
  41. Does God allow Satan to exist to weed out His weak children?
  42. Does God answer the relatively trivial prayers of Americans and ignore world hunger?
  43. How can we trust the Bible? How do we know it’s divinely inspired? Who wrote it?
  44. What would be our fate be if we never found the Dead Sea scrolls?
  45. How do we know for sure that the copies of copies of copies of the originals are accurate?
  46. If the scriptures were written after decades of oral tradition, is there any exaggeration?
  47. How can we trust that the scriptures were translated with 100% accuracy?
  48. How can we trust that the translators didn’t let their biases affect their translation?
  49. How do we know which Bible version is closest to the original without the original?
  50. Do we have to read the scriptures in the original Ancient Hebrew?
  51. Why would God have his book written in a language he knew would die out?
  52. If God can create a man from dirt, why not create a perfect, complete book from more dirt?
  53. If God can create the world from nothing, why does he need fallible man to write his book?
  54. If God created trillions of stars, why not create billions of perfect books to distribute?
  55. Why are there more than 33,000 different Christian denominations worldwide?
  56. How can so many smart people read the same book and interpret it so drastically different?
  57. How do we know which interpretation is the “right” one? Which version? KJV? NIV?
  58. If the Bible is so open to interpretation, how can we trust any interpretation?
  59. Why is God’s divinely inspired “inerrant” word so ambiguous and confusing?
  60. Why is there such a need for Christian apologetics? Why does God need an interpreter?
  61. Why didn’t God give a clear, unambiguous message that all of his children could agree with?
  62. If our souls are on the line, why is God making Himself and His word so hard to understand?
  63. If it’s my fault for not receiving the message, why didn’t he fix my perception when I asked?
  64. If slavery is objectively wrong why was “Don’t own people” not a commandment?
  65. If rape is objectively wrong why was “Don’t rape people” not a commandment?
  66. If babies are innocent, wouldn’t that mean abortion doctors send a lot of souls to heaven?
  67. If abortion is wrong, why does God command soldiers to kill babies and woman (pregnant?)
  68. Why does God break his own commandment “Though shalt not kill?” (a lot)
  69. Is God above his own rules? Why can’t he be a perfect example? Is God above morality?
  70. Is it fair to say I “reject” God if I don’t believe he exists? Do you “reject” Zeus?
  71. Why did Jesus perform petty miracles? (Water to wine, cursing a fig tree)
  72. Why didn’t Jesus perform spectacular miracles that would have compelled a nation?
  73. Why didn’t Jesus end world hunger by turning deserts into fertile soil for crops?
  74. Why didn’t Jesus warn us about disease? A simple “wash your hands” would have helped
  75. Why didn’t Jesus establish a hospital and prove his divinity by sharing health knowledge?
  76. Sure he raised Lazarus from the dead, but wouldn’t these miracles have saved more lives?
  77. People in the Bible believed because they saw Jesus first hand, how can we believe it?
  78. How can we trust the supposed eye witness testimonies and hearsay? (not trusted in courts)
  79. Why should we believe the stories of the Bible over the Quran?
  80. If you get sick do you seek medicine and surgery based on science or do you just pray?
  81. If you would do both, which one do you think has a bigger influence on your recovery?
  82. If prayer has more impact, why waste time and money on human medicine?
  83. Is prayer by itself not enough to heal?
  84. If prayer heals the sick (James 5:15) why do Christians die at the same rate as other people?
  85. Most Americans are rich by worldly standards, how can they get to heaven? (Matt 19:24)
  86. If God made the Earth to support human life, why is 70% covered in undrinkable water?
  87. Why did God create the Earth to need the sun instead of making Earth self-sufficient?
  88. If the universe is fine tuned for human life, why is the vast majority of space hostile to life?
  89. If God is perfect, how can he create something as imperfect as man?
  90. Why do Christians accept science when it suites them and reject what’s uncomfortable?
  91. How many Christians who reject evolution have made an honest attempt to understand it?
  92. What would you say to Christians (like the pope and Francis Collins) who accept evolution?
  93. Is it fair to accuse evolutionists of having an agenda when Christians have similar motives?
  94. In the Garden of Eden, why did God create a talking snake to tempt Eve? Setup to fail?
  95. Why don’t snakes talk today? Why did God let the snake talk then? Why make it crafty?
  96. Is it fair to call evolution a “Fairy Tale” when Genesis literally has magic and talking animals?
  97. Why was God angry at his children’s attempt to be closer to Him with the Tower of Babel?
  98. Why disrupt the unity of his children by mixing their languages, creating opposing factions?
  99. Instead of setting the stage for war, why not just tell them to stop? Send an angel?
  100. Why the flood? Why not just zap the bad people and spare the innocent children?
  101. How did the carnivores eat anything without causing other species to go extinct?
  102. Imagine that God does not exist, what would do you think the world be like?
  103. How does that world you imagined differ from the world we see?
  104. If we are expected to take things on faith, how can we discredit faith of other religions?
  105. If faith is your answer, how would you reach someone with an equal but opposing faith?
  106. Do you think Muslims are deluded when they believe strongly enough to martyr?
  107. Do you think they view you as deluded for following Jesus instead of Muhammad?
  108. How do you know which one of you, if any, is right?
  109. Is your faith more valid than that of the Muslim’s?
  110. If you were born in the Middle East, do you think you would be a Muslim?
  111. If not, how are you different than the millions who are brought up to believe it?
  112. Is it wrong for a Muslim to teach his child his beliefs and isolated her from others views?
  113. Is it fair to isolate a child deep in one religion and insulate her from other opinions?
  114. Do you consider this indoctrination? Why or why not? Good or bad thing? Why?
  115. If children are too young to hold political views, how can they hold religious views?
  116. If a young child hears the gospel, doesn’t believe and dies, do they go to hell?
  117. If they are too young to understand what they deny, how can they truthfully believe?
  118. “God’s ways are above our ways” why doesn’t he at least try to help us understand?
  119. If God is so much higher than us, how can anyone truly understand what God wants?
  120. Are we not worthy enough to question God and ask for evidence?
  121. Why does God give us powerful, curious brains and tell us not to use them? (Prov 3:5)
  122. Why is doubting so frowned upon? (James 1:5-8, Matt 14:31, Matt 21:21)
  123. Why would God give us logic and reason and expect us not to apply it to Him?
  124. How was the gospel expected to reach everyone on Earth before modern technology?
  125. What about the souls who died after Jesus who never had a chance to hear the gospel?
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2013.05.02 03:20 Happydazed What’s the Difference Between the Old Covenant & New Covenant in the Bible?

I post this because there always seems to be alot of confusion in debates about what was said in the OT vs the NT and why things like Deuteronomy don't apply anymore though many insist they do.
What’s the Difference Between the Old Covenant & New Covenant in the Bible?
For a long time I was confused about the difference between what the Bible calls the “Old Covenant” and the “New Covenant.” I imagine many readers still struggle with some confusion between the two.
This post has been made in hopes of clearing up that confusion.
The Old Covenant was in effect during the time before Jesus’ death, burial, and resurrection when the Jews were living under the Mosaic Law, or, the Old Law, and is associated with the Old Testament and the leadership of Moses.
The New Covenant went into effect after Jesus’ death, burial, and resurrection that fulfilled the requirements of the Old Covenant and Old Law, and is associated with the New Testament and the leadership of Jesus.
When I was in college a professor of mine named Dr. Phil Thompson presented my class with a handout put together by a man named Jack McKinney. I’d like to share the contents of that handout with you today as I’ve found them to be very helpful.
Jack McKinney uses 2 Corinthians 3 to compare/contrast the Old Covenant to the New Covenant in a way that really helped clear up a lot of confusion for me … check it out:
The Old Covenant vs. The New Covenant
Jeremiah 31:31-34
Old Covenant – Moses as Minister (2 Corinthians 3:13-15; John 1:17; Hebrews 3:5) New Covenant - Jesus’ Disciples as Ministers (2 Corinthians 3:6; John 16:12-15)
Old Covenant - A Covenant of the Letter (2 Corinthians 3:6) New Covenant - A Covenant of the Spirit (2 Corinthians 3:6-8)
Old Covenant - A Covenant which Kills (2 Corinthians 3:6) New Covenant - A Covenant which Gives Life (2 Corinthians 3:6 – literally “makes alive”)
Old Covenant - A Ministry of Death (2 Corinthians 3:7) New Covenant - A Ministry of Life (2 Corinthians 3:6)
Old Covenant - A Ministry of Condemnation (2 Corinthians 3:9) New Covenant - A Ministration of Righteousness (2 Corinthians 3:9)
Old Covenant - A Covenant Written with Ink (2 Corinthians 3:3) New Covenant - A Covenant Written with the Spirit of the Living God (2 Corinthians 3:3)
Old Covenant - A Covenant Written on Stone (2 Corinthians 3:3-7) New Covenant - A Covenant Written on the Heart of Man (2 Corinthians 3:3; Jeremiah 31:33; Ezekiel 11:19-20; 36:26)
Old Covenant - A Covenant which came with Glory (2 Corinthians 3:7; Exodus 34:29-35) New Covenant - A Covenant which came with the Greatest Glory (2 Corinthians 3:8-11)
Old Covenant - A Covenant whose Glory was Passing/Fading (2 Corinthians 3:7) New Covenant - A Covenant whose Glory Continues to Shine (2 Corinthians 3:18)
Old Covenant - A Veiled or Covered Glory (2 Corinthians 3:12-16) New Covenant - An Unveiled, Ever-Increasing Glory (2 Corinthians 3:18)
Old Covenant - A Covenant Destined to be Done Away (2 Corinthians 3:11; Hebrews 7:12, 8:13, 10:9) New Covenant - A Covenant Destined to Last Forever (2 Corinthians 3:11; Hebrews 13:20)
McKinney goes on to note:
It was not merely the glory (GREEK: Doxa; cf. English “doxology”) which was transient in nature, but the Old Covenant itself. A close reading of 2 Corinthians 3:11 makes that clear, though some commentators have missed this. It is especially clear from 2 Corinthians 3:7, where Paul speaks of the “ministry that brought death … engraved in letters on stone” coming with glory (NIV). It does not make sense to say that the glory of the Old Covenant “came with glory.” To understand this chapter, one must turn back to the situation in Exodus 34, and even then Paul’s argument may seem a bit strange to us. Still, his line of reasoning in one that is quite acceptable to that of the rabbinical interpretation of his time. It is not, of course, as if the Old Testament were of no value to the Christian. As the tutor or schoolmaster whose purpose was to lead to Christ, it has tremendous value for us, but the fact that “now that faith has come, we are no longer under the supervision of the law” (Galatians 3:19-23, 25; 2:19-21).
I’ve retyped the original handout by Jack McKinney as it was given to me with a couple of minor changes (mostly typos), and encourage any serious Bible student to download and study it.
That leads me to the question: what should we do with the teachings surrounding the Old Covenant today? Should we simply ignore them, or are they still applicable?
I really appreciate the way Mark Driscoll explains this on pages 46 & 47 of his book On the Old Testament (A Book You’ll Actually Read):
I have also been asked many times whether we need to obey all commands in the Old Tesatment. The short answer regarding law is that all of the Old Testament commands/laws were fulfilled in Jesus Christ (Matthew 5:17-18). This does not mean that we do not love and value the Old Testament law. But it does mean that we are no longer under it. Similarly, when I was in high school I had to sign an attendance sheet every day, go to assemblies, and bring a note if I had been sick. Since the graduation requirements have been met, I am no longer bound to do those things. This does not mean they were bad, only that they are completed. However, there are some laws from high school that are still binding on me. For example, at my school I was not allowed to kill anyone, sell drugs, or steal. These laws are still applicable to me, even though I have graduated.
Likewise, there are three kinds of laws in the Old Testament.
First, there are ceremonial laws, which are related to the priesthood, sacrifices, temple, and cleanness. These are now fulfilled in Jesus (for example, nearly the entire book of Hebrews addresses this issue for Jews who struggled with the Old Testament laws once they were saved). These laws are no longer binding on us because Jesus is our Priest, Sacrifice, Temple, and Cleanser.
Second, there are civil laws, which refer to the governing of Israel as a nation ruled by God. Since we are no longer a theocracy, these laws, while insightful, are not directly binding on us. As Romans 13 says, we must now obey our pagan government because God will work through it, too.
Third, there are moral laws, which prohibit such things as stealing, murdering, and lying. These laws are still binding on us even though Jesus fulfilled their requirements through His sinless life. Jesus Himself repeats and reinforces nine of the Ten Commandments. The only exception is the Sabbath, because that is part of the ceremonial law. Now our rest is in the finished work of Jesus, not just a day.
OP Edit: For me the actual answer to the above paragraph is stated in this:
Galatians 5:14 NLT New Living Translation
For the whole law can be summed up in this one command: "Love your neighbor as yourself."
If you do this you do the law.
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2012.05.11 00:11 frontbot 11pm Thu 10 May 2012 - /r/music

  1. Anyone remember Schfifty Five? youtube.com comments Music
  2. Beastie Boys return to US top 20 bbc.co.uk comments Music
  3. Where The Beatles had their first US concert in 1964 flickr.com comments Music
  4. The Cave, Mumford & Sons youtube.com comments Music
  5. Hiya everybody- I'm a Against Me! fan who happens to be a trans woman. It really warmed my heart seeing everyone here supporting Laura Grace (Tom Gabel) So I thought I'd share some info to help you gain more understanding about the trans community and what trans women go through. self.Music comments Music
  6. [Sufjan Stevens - Concerning The UFO Sighting Near Highland, Illinois
  7. Foo Fighters - Bridge Burning youtu.be comments Music
  8. Radiohead - Idioteque youtube.com comments Music
  9. R. Kelly - Trapped in the Closet (seriously, have you ever made it through the whole thing?) youtube.com comments Music
  10. Any love for Jurassic 5? What's Golden youtube.com comments Music
  11. [St. Vincent - "KROKODIL"
  12. Acoustic Cover of "Sexy and I know it" by LMFAO youtube.com comments Music
  13. My father has been making violins/guitars for the past decade. Recently he called me and told me about this new genre DUBSTEP!!! (it made me chuckle) But then he told me he has been creating dubstep! It would make his day if ya guys listened to what this old timer created... clubcreate.com comments Music
  14. Music, what is some of the absolute weirdest music you have ever heard? self.Music comments Music
  15. Hey Reddit, my band recorded our new album in an old barn in NH and we just want people to hear it (and download it for free) We think you might like it! self.Music comments Music
  16. I recently saw Roger Waters: The Wall Live. The most colorful show I've ever been to. Here's all the pics I took before my iPhone ran out of juice :-( imgur.com comments Music
  17. Peter Gabriel- Sledgehammer youtube.com comments Music
  18. Warren Zevon - Excitable Boy - Live in Passaic NJ, 1982 youtube.com comments Music
  19. Mr. Bungle - Vanity Fair youtube.com comments Music
  20. Girl from my old high school covers "Come Together" A-Capella using only a looper to sample herself. youtube.com comments Music
  21. Exit Earth - Brandon (new) youtube.com comments Music
  22. Iggy Pop, humbled by record companies, self-releases latest record on internet translate.google.com comments Music
  23. MakeDamnSure- Taking Back Sunday youtube.com comments Music
  24. This is Making Me SO Hungry: Bandwiches mcsweeneys.net comments Music
  25. Song by an Irish band I've stuck in my head! youtube.com comments Music
  26. The Scientist - Covered by Willie youtube.com comments Music
  27. Gorillaz - Dare youtube.com comments Music
  28. Ministry - Jesus Built My Hotrod youtube.com comments Music
  29. Arctic Monkeys - The View From The Afternoon youtube.com comments Music
  30. Muse - Thoughts Of A Dying Atheist youtube.com comments Music
  31. Billy Idol - Eyes Without a Face youtube.com comments Music
  32. Caribou - Bees [5:26] youtube.com comments Music
  33. Unexpected voice. Amazing. youtube.com comments Music
  34. Elton John - Benny and the Jets youtube.com comments Music
  35. Bohemian Rhapsody 37 Year Anniversary Today youtube.com comments Music
  36. Frank Zappa - Who Needs The Peace Corps (1968) youtube.com comments Music
  37. Weezer - Pink Triangle youtube.com comments Music
  38. Alan Parsons Project - Old and Wise youtube.com comments Music
  39. Freddie Mercury 'to appear' in Queen show bbc.co.uk comments Music
  40. More people should listen to Band of Skulls: The Devil Takes Care of his Own youtube.com comments Music
  41. Rodrigo y Gabriela - 'Tamacun' self.Music comments Music
  42. Positive Contact - Deltron 3030 youtube.com comments Music
  43. Tom Gabel, Harsh Realms- Really great voice display, relevant with everything in the news about him. youtube.com comments Music
  44. Lupe Fiasco Gives "Food & Liquor II" Update; First Single Dropping May 22! youtube.com comments Music
  45. Caravan Palace - Rock It For Me youtube.com comments Music
  46. The Foo Fighters - Times Like These youtube.com comments Music
  47. Woke up with this perfect slice of pop in my head: Cyndi Lauper, "Time After Time." youtu.be comments Music
  48. This is how real covers are done ft. Richard Cheese youtube.com comments Music
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2012.05.10 23:11 frontbot 10pm Thu 10 May 2012 - /r/music

  1. Beastie Boys return to US top 20 bbc.co.uk comments Music
  2. Anyone remember Schfifty Five? youtube.com comments Music
  3. Where The Beatles had their first US concert in 1964 flickr.com comments Music
  4. The Cave, Mumford & Sons youtube.com comments Music
  5. Hiya everybody- I'm a Against Me! fan who happens to be a trans woman. It really warmed my heart seeing everyone here supporting Laura Grace (Tom Gabel) So I thought I'd share some info to help you gain more understanding about the trans community and what trans women go through. self.Music comments Music
  6. Foo Fighters - Bridge Burning youtu.be comments Music
  7. [Sufjan Stevens - Concerning The UFO Sighting Near Highland, Illinois
  8. [St. Vincent - "KROKODIL"
  9. R. Kelly - Trapped in the Closet (seriously, have you ever made it through the whole thing?) youtube.com comments Music
  10. My father has been making violins/guitars for the past decade. Recently he called me and told me about this new genre DUBSTEP!!! (it made me chuckle) But then he told me he has been creating dubstep! It would make his day if ya guys listened to what this old timer created... clubcreate.com comments Music
  11. Radiohead - Idioteque youtube.com comments Music
  12. I recently saw Roger Waters: The Wall Live. The most colorful show I've ever been to. Here's all the pics I took before my iPhone ran out of juice :-( imgur.com comments Music
  13. Mr. Bungle - Vanity Fair youtube.com comments Music
  14. Hey Reddit, my band recorded our new album in an old barn in NH and we just want people to hear it (and download it for free) We think you might like it! self.Music comments Music
  15. Acoustic Cover of "Sexy and I know it" by LMFAO youtube.com comments Music
  16. Girl from my old high school covers "Come Together" A-Capella using only a looper to sample herself. youtube.com comments Music
  17. Peter Gabriel- Sledgehammer youtube.com comments Music
  18. Iggy Pop, humbled by record companies, self-releases latest record on internet translate.google.com comments Music
  19. Warren Zevon - Excitable Boy - Live in Passaic NJ, 1982 youtube.com comments Music
  20. Song by an Irish band I've stuck in my head! youtube.com comments Music
  21. Arctic Monkeys - The View From The Afternoon youtube.com comments Music
  22. This is Making Me SO Hungry: Bandwiches mcsweeneys.net comments Music
  23. Music, what is some of the absolute weirdest music you have ever heard? self.Music comments Music
  24. Gorillaz - Dare youtube.com comments Music
  25. Billy Idol - Eyes Without a Face youtube.com comments Music
  26. Exit Earth - Brandon (new) youtube.com comments Music
  27. Ministry - Jesus Built My Hotrod youtube.com comments Music
  28. Alan Parsons Project - Old and Wise youtube.com comments Music
  29. Freddie Mercury 'to appear' in Queen show bbc.co.uk comments Music
  30. Rodrigo y Gabriela - 'Tamacun' self.Music comments Music
  31. The Scientist - Covered by Willie youtube.com comments Music
  32. Lupe Fiasco Gives "Food & Liquor II" Update; First Single Dropping May 22! youtube.com comments Music
  33. My brother just started posting his music on Youtube. Can Reddit give him some love? youtube.com comments Music
  34. My friend made this and I feel like some of you will get it [x-post from punny] imgur.com comments Music
  35. Woke up with this perfect slice of pop in my head: Cyndi Lauper, "Time After Time." youtu.be comments Music
  36. I hate IE but I do enjoy this song. youtube.com comments Music
  37. Elton John - Benny and the Jets youtube.com comments Music
  38. Caribou - Bees [5:26] youtube.com comments Music
  39. So I've got a friend who's really talented and I can't help but feel as though the reddit community is all he needs to push him over the edge. Make him famous! youtube.com comments Music
  40. Someone did it right. youtube.com comments Music
  41. Lenny Kravitz crashes a choir performance. This video makes the musician in me so happy. youtube.com comments Music
  42. Pink Floyd - The Happiest Days Of Our Lives / Another Brick In The Wall (Live At Earls Court 1980) youtube.com comments Music
  43. Buckethead live at the Hardly Strictly Bluegrass Festival! youtube.com comments Music
  44. Type O Negative - Christian Woman youtube.com comments Music
  45. DownBeat Keys - You Ain't Gonna Go Far youtube.com comments Music
  46. Positive Contact - Deltron 3030 youtube.com comments Music
  47. Unexpected voice. Amazing. youtube.com comments Music
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2012.05.10 22:12 frontbot 9pm Thu 10 May 2012 - /r/music

  1. Beastie Boys return to US top 20 bbc.co.uk comments Music
  2. Anyone remember Schfifty Five? youtube.com comments Music
  3. The Cave, Mumford & Sons youtube.com comments Music
  4. Where The Beatles had their first US concert in 1964 flickr.com comments Music
  5. Hiya everybody- I'm a Against Me! fan who happens to be a trans woman. It really warmed my heart seeing everyone here supporting Laura Grace (Tom Gabel) So I thought I'd share some info to help you gain more understanding about the trans community and what trans women go through. self.Music comments Music
  6. Foo Fighters - Bridge Burning youtu.be comments Music
  7. [Sufjan Stevens - Concerning The UFO Sighting Near Highland, Illinois
  8. I recently saw Roger Waters: The Wall Live. The most colorful show I've ever been to. Here's all the pics I took before my iPhone ran out of juice :-( imgur.com comments Music
  9. Mr. Bungle - Vanity Fair youtube.com comments Music
  10. Peter Gabriel- Sledgehammer youtube.com comments Music
  11. [St. Vincent - "KROKODIL"
  12. Girl from my old high school covers "Come Together" A-Capella using only a looper to sample herself. youtube.com comments Music
  13. My father has been making violins/guitars for the past decade. Recently he called me and told me about this new genre DUBSTEP!!! (it made me chuckle) But then he told me he has been creating dubstep! It would make his day if ya guys listened to what this old timer created... clubcreate.com comments Music
  14. Song by an Irish band I've stuck in my head! youtube.com comments Music
  15. Iggy Pop, humbled by record companies, self-releases latest record on internet translate.google.com comments Music
  16. Hey Reddit, my band recorded our new album in an old barn in NH and we just want people to hear it (and download it for free) We think you might like it! self.Music comments Music
  17. Gorillaz - Dare youtube.com comments Music
  18. Ministry - Jesus Built My Hotrod youtube.com comments Music
  19. Warren Zevon - Excitable Boy - Live in Passaic NJ, 1982 youtube.com comments Music
  20. This is Making Me SO Hungry: Bandwiches mcsweeneys.net comments Music
  21. Billy Idol - Eyes Without a Face youtube.com comments Music
  22. Weezer - Pink Triangle youtube.com comments Music
  23. Alan Parsons Project - Old and Wise youtube.com comments Music
  24. Rodrigo y Gabriela - 'Tamacun' self.Music comments Music
  25. Arctic Monkeys - The View From The Afternoon youtube.com comments Music
  26. MCA's first line from every Beastie Boys song ever... huffingtonpost.com comments Music
  27. Elton John - Benny and the Jets youtube.com comments Music
  28. Caribou - Bees [5:26] youtube.com comments Music
  29. My band, opinions please. youtube.com comments Music
  30. Freddie Mercury 'to appear' in Queen show bbc.co.uk comments Music
  31. Lenny Kravitz crashes a choir performance. This video makes the musician in me so happy. youtube.com comments Music
  32. Woke up with this perfect slice of pop in my head: Cyndi Lauper, "Time After Time." youtu.be comments Music
  33. DownBeat Keys - You Ain't Gonna Go Far youtube.com comments Music
  34. Neil Young - Ohio youtube.com comments Music
  35. Well this is my attempt to get my music out there. Help a redditor out? self.Music comments Music
  36. Steve Earle - Copperhead Road youtube.com comments Music
  37. Eiffel 65 - Too Much of Heaven youtube.com comments Music
  38. Music, what is some of the absolute weirdest music you have ever heard? self.Music comments Music
  39. Beastie Boys sued for Copyright Infringement/Sampling...not a good time for this. mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com comments Music
  40. Shakey Graves - Built to Roam [alt blues folk] (full album in comments) youtube.com comments Music
  41. What would you put on your 'morning mix'? self.Music comments Music
  42. Radiohead - Idioteque youtube.com comments Music
  43. This Town Needs Guns - If I sit still, maybe I'll get out of here youtube.com comments Music
  44. Forever A-Song youtube.com comments Music
  45. Type O Negative - Christian Woman youtube.com comments Music
  46. Muse - Thoughts Of A Dying Atheist youtube.com comments Music
  47. One of the best Dear Mama covers youtube.com comments Music
  48. Mr. Bungle- Pink Cigarette youtube.com comments Music
  49. Mausi - Sol. youtube.com comments Music
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2012.01.31 03:26 iamtotalcrap I love my father, but I have NEVER been so angry in my life. [self]

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Today, I posted on Facebook the news article of the Tennessee Representative who said he would "Stomp a mudhole" into a transgender woman who tried to use a women's bathroom. I posted that along with this caption:
"Whether your religion is against homosexuals and transexuals or not, please don't vote evil people like this into public office. make sure you know the views of the people you vote for!"
My father responded:
"Do we have to label our genitalia on bathroom doors to keep these freaks out of our private space?!?!"
I love my father, but I have never been so mad in my entire life. Here was my response (note, I sent him an email instead of making this public):
Dad, you know I love you right?
*But do you know that ALL of my best friends have been “freaks”, as you call them? MR, KP, SR, and my friend A are all homosexual. There is also a family member that you are aware of that has come out as gay. *A few times recently, you have spoken to me about posts I have made on Facebook not properly showing my Christianity. Do you think that calling people freaks is very Christ-like? Jesus is known for accepting all people. He hung out with tax collectors and prostitutes. I’m sure he wouldn’t have excluded homosexuals. *Here are a few Bible verses on homosexuality.
*Lev. 18:22, "You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination."1 *Lev. 20:13, "If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their blood guiltiness is upon them" *1 Cor. 6:9-10, "Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, 10nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, shall inherit the kingdom of God."
*Clearly, homosexuality is a sin. Other sins listed in 1 Cor. 6:9-10 that will make you not inherit the kingdom of God are idolatry, adultery, and coveting. These are three sins that you yourself are guilty of! You are an idolater for an almost worship-like love of football. Surely you spend more time on Sundays watching ESPN than in church. You are an adulterer because you divorced then remarried. You are covetous when you crave a new house in a new state with a new motorcycle. You have just as much of a chance of going to heaven as a homosexual or transsexual that repents to Jesus.
*We are taught in church that all sins are equal, and I have heard both you and Amanda verbally agree to this. We are also taught not to judge others, because with the measure we judge them with, we will be judged. So be careful when you label people who have sex differently than you “freaks.”
*My friends that are homosexual are the kindest and most loving people I have ever known, specially my friend Andrew. I refuse to believe that they are abominations when all they do is go to school, try their best to be good people, and work hard-just like me. I think it is absurd to think that just because a person is homosexual, that they should be put to death, just like Lev. 20:13 says. Equally absurd Bible verses, I will list below. If the Old Testament says that homosexuality is so bad, we should not cherry pick, and we should also look at some other Old Testament laws just as absurd as the ones saying my friends are abominations: *(Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NLT) If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her.
*Do you think Momma should have been sold to Uncle C because he raped her? Would you sell me to my rapist if I were ever to be sexually attacked?
*(Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT) However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way.
*Do you own any slaves that will get passed down to me when you die? You know I hate yard work.
*IN MY OPINION, these verses are as radical as the ones saying homosexuals should be put to death. The Bible also says adulterers should die, and all four of my parents are adulterers according to:
*(Matthew 5:32) But I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, makes her the victim of adultery, and anyone who marries a divorced woman commits adultery. *(Lev. 20:10) If a man commits adultery with another man's wife--with the wife of his neighbor--both the adulterer and the adulteress must be put to death.
*Dad, I love you, but what you said on my Facebook as just plain hateful and you can’t deny that. I choose to go the more adult route and not post this in response on the post so that all of our friends and family could see. I didn’t want to call because I would have yelled at you.
*(1 John 4:7-8) Beloved, let us love one another, for love is from God, and whoever loves has been born of God and knows God. Anyone who does not love does not know God, because God is love. *(John 13:34-35) A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another: just as I have loved you, you also are to love one another. By this all people will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another. *(1 John 3:16) By this we know love, that he laid down his life for us, and we ought to lay down our lives for our brothers. *(1 Peter 4:8) Above all, keep loving one another earnestly, since love covers a multitude of sins. *(Matthew 7:1-29) Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when there is the log in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye. .
*God says love all people. He doesn’t say love all people except those you are different from you.
(Edit: It should be known that I am an agnostic atheist, but my family doesn't know. Also, fixed some formatting the best I knew how. Also, took out friends names!)
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